I was thinking about how the idea of some form of secession of states is always discussed in some really silly right-wing fantasy contexts but has there been any discourse in leftist circles about this? Especially in terms of the completely broken political system.

Otherwise is this a completely stupid idea on its face? Either way I'm just interested to hear about people's thoughts.

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[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

A fully dissolved and collapsed america will be Hell itself for its population of scavengers and murderers but it will be an unalloyed good for the rest of the world and the global south getting some breathing room is the only hope for humanity, so

[–] LeopardShepherd@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Does it necessarily need to be a completely chaotic process? Could there be a pathway for new forms of government or organisation that's better for people?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nuclear weapons make it pretty hard to visualize. I can''t imagine a way that different nuclear sites landing in the hands of opposing quasi-states in a hot war could ever end well.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

whoever controls north dakota and eastern montana will be the new Great Khan

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

in some places material conditions will improve and embryonic new social orders will form. There's a silver lining to be found if you squint hard enough

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