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[–] Crampon@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (36 children)

AI artist Jason Allen

Absolute degenerate.

I have also spent some time screwing around with AI art generators. No way I'm addressing my self as an artist for it. AI art can be useful in certain situations such as whipping together a stupid meme to share between some friends. It's not any talent involved, and it's not something you should consider as copyright worthy.

Creating nice art is available to anyone. It just require some creativity and talent if you want to love of it. Being an artist is not some basic human right. As plenty of "artists" believe.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 22 points 1 month ago (9 children)

@Crampon

AI artists are just the new version of "fractal artists" who for the most part just pick a color palette and run a Mandelbrot generator until they find an appealing image.

It's not nothing but it's not going to get you very far.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (7 children)
[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

@dgerard

I had a bit making an exception for the value of "fine art" because that can get weird, like “unmade bed with a bunch of trash around it” or a signed urinal.

But I seem to have left that part on the cutting room floor.

If a piece of purely prompt-generated AI art hits a price like a shark in formaldehyde I strongly suspect it'll be some kind of inorganic AI industry insider self-dealing to hype up the AI art market, similar to the big Beeple NFT sale.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Okay but the shark in formaldehyde is fucking awesome to see in person.

It's a shark! In formaldehyde!!

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

yeah, Hirst can be a bit of a hack and the names of the pieces are super cheugy but he's definitely made some really evocative stuff

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 3 points 1 month ago

@V0ldek

Yeah I'm not dismissing that. It's a big ass shark in a tank.

Or the guy who made a cast of his own head using his own frozen blood, that's kept in a special refrigerated display case.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it might be worth reflecting on exactly why Fountain seems to "get weird;" it had a context and complaints about it are part of that context. I liked this recent video which explores the politics of Fountain.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 3 points 1 month ago

@corbin

I just mean "weird" in terms of “valued far higher than the average person might expect” but I'm not implying that that value isn't merited. I'm not one to dismiss a Rothko.

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