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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The F4 remain, to me, the strangest marvel property. The four least cool people you could imagine - body image guy, libido man, the most divorced married man, and literally established the trope of women being given the power to be invisible woman fighting the coolest guy in the history of comics who is also the only person in comic books who can actually administer a country competently.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I actually kind of like Ben, Johnny, and Sue each for their own reasons but no disagreement on Reed. Thats why I'm glad that The Maker exists. "Reed Richards, but actually he's incredibly evil" makes so much sense as a character.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. The rest of the group is okay, it's just Reed is such an anchor. Ben trying to come to terms with what happened to him is super relatable.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Plus they've done similar things with Sue in the comics that they've done with like, Wanda and Jean, where they just go "yeah the original idea for them was lame and kinda sexist so lets just make them incredible badasses actually".