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Imagine getting outflacked from the left by a normal green socdem when you call yourself a democratic "socialist"

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[โ€“] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 9 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Hot take but.... AOC is absolutely right. What are the greens doing in-between each election cycle? Are they winning down ballot/local elections? Are they organizing demonstrations? No. That loser Jill Stein just runs a failed campaign every 4 years. She's not a comrade, she's a grifter.

Say what you will about AOC or the DSA (I'm sure there is plenty of valid criticism), but at least they win and are executing on a plan to gain power. And while I think similarly of the PSL's electoral strategy as the Greens, at least the PSL does phenomenal organization and activism.

Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I fail to see what material benefits Stein/Greens actually provide. If you're looking for a box to check that isn't D/R, by all means vote for the G. But I don't really see any material reason to donate or promote the Greens.

[โ€“] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

but at least they win and are executing on a plan to gain power

Yeah, gaining power in service of genocide and the persecution of immigrants

But I don't really see any material reason to donate or promote the Greens.

Anything that reduces the power and vote share of the two parties is a material benefit for the working class, even a shitty green party getting a slightly larger share of the vote falls squarely under the harm reduction rubric left libs love to chirp about

Death by a thousand cuts is the best the western left can hope for, and every cut counts

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