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[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Off the top of my head the villain in one of the Iron Man films was opposed to US war crimes and imperialism, New New Spider Man 1 had the Vulture as a villain whose deal was Stark and the wealthy were screwing people over.

In Batman Begins 3 Bane is a pastiche of anarchism/anti-capital ideas until revealed that that's a play by Talia.

Well intentioned extremist is a pretty common villain trope in general.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Well intentioned extremist

Funny, that's how people who want change is portrayed by liberal media in real life, too.

I wonder if it's a coincidence?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (9 children)

It's possible that well intentioned extremists really are more likely to have a negative impact and not cause any positive change.

How many mass shooters have a manifesto? Often they're upset about how things are and feel like killing a bunch of people will change things. But they just wind up killing a bunch of people and don't influence anyone to do anything. Well other than copy cats who also just kill people.

In real life wanting change isn't bad. But using violence is bad and doesn't result in any positive change. The use of violence makes people feel helpless and so they want to see movies about heroes with superpowers that can take on violent extremists.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Often they’re upset about how things are and feel like killing a bunch of people will change things.

Just like Batman, eh?

In real life wanting change isn’t bad. But using violence

So as long as your desire for change doesn't actually threaten the people at the top, it's all okay?

That is literally what the people creating this kind of propaganda wants you to believe.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just like ba haha ha ha hahaha ha ha ha haha!

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Batman has a principle of not killing people.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are so desperate to cling onto your favorite capitalist-parasite-by-day, fascist-vigilante-at-night wish-fulfillment fantasy who am I to stop you?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How to tell everyone you've never actually read a single Batman comic, method A:

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was reading them long before you were born, Clyde.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure you were. Sure you were.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sooo, which part of...

I was reading them long before you were born, Clyde.

...didn't you get the first time around?

Again. If you are so desperate to cling onto your favorite capitalist-parasite-by-day, fascist-vigilante-at-night wish-fulfillment fantasy I won't stop you. But if you want to get all reactionary and salty when people point out the obvious about the media you have invested so much into you should expect pushback.

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