But no, we have all these fucking articles and books whining about how hard these dudes have it because women won't bring them their slippers and pipe anymore or some shit.

[–] RBridger@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Men actually believe that they feel emotions more deeply and genuinely than women do. There's not a man alive who doesn't think women are beneath him.

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

There's not a man alive who doesn't think women are beneath him.

Please, we can talk about how men are shitty without saying that they are literally, all of them, to a man, irredeemable. Because that's obviously not true, there are plenty of men who see women as their equals. Yes, there's "male socialization" or whatever and men are often taught to be extremely shitty, but their shittiness is not a necessary part of manhood and they can be educated out of it.

In fact, I would argue that saying stuff like this, that "there's not a man alive who doesn't think women are beneath him" actually gives men a pass to be misogynistic assholes. If part of being a man is viewing women as lesser, then we can't hold any man accountable when he views women as lesser. But we can hold them accountable for this, and furthermore, we need to if we ever want to build a better society.

[–] RBridger@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right. I overreacted out of frustration, but it's true that misogyny is not a necessary part of manhood, and that men can and should be educated out of it. We CAN hold them accountable, and we do need to, but I'm frustrated that it rarely happens. Most people seem to think that misogyny is not a big deal

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I understand your frustration! Patriarchy is extremely shitty and misogyny is so often ignored and downplayed, it's really infuriating.

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