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Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo’s latest diatribe against COVID-19 vaccines took on a religious bent Thursday when he told far-right podcast host Steve Bannon that the inoculations are the “Antichrist of all products.”

A day after the Ron DeSantis appointee called for the end of mRNA vaccines because he believed they could harm DNA—a claim that experts have debunked—Ladapo reiterated his baseless contentions to Bannon.

“I think it probably does have some integration at some levels with the human genome,” Ladapo said on the War Room podcast, “because these vaccines are honestly—they’re the Antichrist of all products. So I think it probably does. But I’m not saying it does.”

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[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

"I think it probably..."

  1. You're a fucking surgeon general. You shouldn't base your opinions re: public health on what you "think" and "believe," but on science and facts
  2. If you do have a hypothesis to that effect, then run some tests and studies and either prove it or disprove it and shut the fuck up
  3. None of this is how mRNA works. It's a fucking messenger you disingenuous dolt
[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"It has been shown to contain DNA"

Umm, no, it contains RNA, which in turn helps produce DNA. Apparently he forgot his college biology classes.

[–] Metype@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

High school biology*

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 22 points 10 months ago

He could always...I dunno...look it up. Not like there's a shortage of COVID vaccine studies or middle-school-level explainers to grasp how mRNA works.

But based on his religious language, I doubt he's interested in going against DeSantis or his pastor.

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[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 45 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I hope he gets it and dies gasping

[–] wazzupdog@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That would not be a sufficient punishment, but a good enough i suppose.

[–] TawdryPorker@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I saw yesterday that there's a strong protection from the vaccine against Long Covid. Perhaps that would give him more time to contemplate his foolishness.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

this comes with the consequence that we also have to endure his foolishness.

besides which, he'd probably write it off as a god testing him for some stupid reason

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Let's be honest, he probably does have the vaccine but like most things this is to grift the stupid on behalf of Republicans.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

He probably won't, because he's gotten the vaccines.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 28 points 10 months ago

I too expect a medically trained professional that makes decisions about my health to compare certain medications to ancient beliefs of bad spirits. I mean, at this rate trusting a voodoo priest would be better, since that guy may not be insincere on purpose.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This should be criminal and he should be locked away. The fact that he is allowed to hold office is insanity. Religious people should not be allowed to make policy, and anti-science idiots shouldn’t be allowed to hold positions of influence and authority.

[–] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Behind the scenes, most of these people have had the vaccine, too. That makes it so much more evil. They essentially want a percentage of the population to die? I don't understand the end game. Is it just part of the culty stuff? Getting people to suspend their critical thinking entirely?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

yeah I've wondered for a long time what the 'plan' was, and all I can ascertain years later is: there was no plan. They thrashed and fumbled from the beginning, explaining the US's exceptional covid death #s. And you're entirely correct, the ones who took the vax but downplayed it to the public are the worst of the worst.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

He’s doing us a favor. The stupid will die off and those that remain will be better off.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t this guy supposed to have a valid medical degree? I’m a layman and understand how mRNA vaccines work. How can he be so wildly off? Does he understand and not care or is truly stupid?

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

It's actually not that complicated.

Just to illustrate, let's look at a single facet of Iranian society under their religious totalitarians. They frequently want our technology, but they don't want the creativity that actually creates it, because this liberal creative mindset would inevitably undermine their authority.

Any conservative individual can adopt this conformist style, where they go ahead and absorb "what" and "how" but are far more leery of "why" questions, simply loyally parroting what they think others want them to say while not actually internalizing the lesson material.

So, their education ends up partial. They can still become a doctor though, all that takes is a whole shitload of hard work and some intelligence.

There's always going to be some.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Having a degree doesn't prevent him from being a charlatan.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

And in fact, it turns out that being a charlatan can be quite lucrative, probably orders of magnitude more than he makes as a doctor.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe let’s ban devoted religious from the scientific community? It’s in their very core to disagree with truth and disregard logic

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Better yet, let Darwinism play a role in strengthening the herd.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago

gotta think that republicans catering to the dumbest of the dumb isn't a good decision.

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Who gave this fucking idiot a license to practice medicine?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

He went to medical school with the medic from TF2

[–] Soltros@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Surgeon Generals are supposed to have medical degrees. So, either this guy got his medical degree from a diploma mill and is a really good liar, or he's got a regular degree and is just really stupid.

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

How the hell can any of these so-called "adults" say any of this with a straight face?

“because these vaccines are honestly—they’re the Antichrist of all products. So I think it probably does. But I’m not saying it does.”

Well okay, fuckball, the next time your ass is suffering from a disease or anything that'd require a vaccine. Do us a favor and just suffer through it. And yes you did say it does because you believe through thinking that it does. It's why you've gone through the effort to be on a shit podcast is to say it.

[–] Coach@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Well, COVID shots are rubber and he's glue.

[–] rez_doggie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Looks like your heart just has some bad juju. Let me call in a specialist witch doctor and he'll have you feeling better in no time.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good. Let him brainwash all of the idiots into not taking it. The herd needs culling anyway.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

the problem with this line of thought are all the innocents they'll sneeze and cough on between covid infections 2-7, before they die. This bullshit - anti vax and anti-mask - guarantee we'll be swimming in these idiot's bullshit for the foreseeable future.

[–] Jonna@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He says it contains DNA. There's a grain of truth to that but it's still bullshit:

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/dna-in-covid-19-vaccines-7-pieces

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

That's how good lies are developed. Create and expand your lie around a grain of truth and transform it into propaganda to draw in your audience. You can always point back to that grain of truth to defend even the wildest lie.