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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Actually significantly below average even by the low bar of the Dem leadership. He was the most conservative democrat candidate in a field that included Amy Klobuchar and two billionaires, one of whom is a former republican.

He's barely to the left of Joe Manchin and neoliberals pretend that he's the most progressive president ever 🤦

And yes, of course he's still a much better choice than the Mango Mussolini, but talk about a low fucking bar!

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 92 points 9 months ago (12 children)

He is undeniably awful on some issues, however if you look at everything that's happened under him, I think you'll be surprised how much, lets say his people, have started to pull the US out of a 40 year old Reagan shaped hole.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 61 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (45 children)

Can you list out some of the legislation he's helped pass and some of his executive orders?

Edit: Instead of everyone continuing with the "here's one thing I didn't like" game, here's a non-exhaustive list for you:

  • Rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement
  • Rejoining the World Health Organization
  • Revoking permits for the Keystone XL pipeline
  • Ending support for Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen
  • Withdrawing from Afghanistan
  • Juneteenth National Independence Day Act
  • American Rescue Plan
  • Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
  • CHIPS and Science Act
  • Inflation Reduction Act
  • Honoring our PACT Act
  • Eliminating the Schedule F class of federal workers Trump created that stripped federal workers of job protections
  • Restoring collective bargaining rights to federal workers
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (74 children)

Well there's the time he lobbied Congress to take away the rights of striking railway workers.

And then there's the fact that he circumvented normal procedures to expedite weapons sales to Israel twice in December alone.

That's just two of many examples of him being on the side of the rich and powerful and against regular people every time there's conflict between the two groups.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (14 children)

How dare he… checks notes… prevent a national financial crisis but still worked to get the unions everything they wanted, and stand by our international allies in a crisis even when Congress won't.

I guess you'd prefer a reality where he takes the fall for the consequences of the strike, Republicans win, and Israel is thrown under the bus, providing an example to our other allies that we will do the same to them as soon as it's politically convenient. Brilliant politics.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Those striking railway workers eventually got their demands for sick leave met in their contracts with continued support from the Biden Administration AND our national economy didn't grind to a halt

"We’re thankful that the Biden administration played the long game on sick days and stuck with us for months after Congress imposed our updated national agreement,” Russo said. “Without making a big show of it, Joe Biden and members of his administration in the Transportation and Labor departments have been working continuously to get guaranteed paid sick days for all railroad workers.

Source: https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I'm not really sure that's the point. The fact that the only changes that are allowed to get through are what the president allows is disheartening. The fact is, these workers should have been able to strike on their own terms without being shut down. What happens with a more hostile leader? What Biden did was defang the Union in that instance. Threw them a bone afterward, sure, but he defanged them.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Without making a big show of it

That's how Biden works! The corporate media is against Biden and it shows to those who can see. It's tough getting the real news and that's a massive problem for this country.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They got a fraction of what they were asking for and they weren't even asking for much. Their working conditions are still so awful that it's only a question of time before the next major derailment disaster like the one in Ohio happens.

Next time, it might happen in a major metropolitan area, in which case many will die and the economy will suffer a lot worse than not trampling on their rights would have.

And even the tiny concessions they DID get in spite of Biden convincing congress to make them fight oligarchic railway companies without their best weapon, strike actions, was due to NLRB efforts with no help from Corporate Joe.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The strike threat was about paid sick leave, it wasn't about railroad safety. Safety is an important issue too, but every single source from the time, even directly from the unions, explicitly discussed only paid sick leave. In that sense they got their demand met completely

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

It was about sick leave and improving the working conditions that are so awful that they're literally making workers sick and trains less safe.

every single source from the time, even directly from the unions, explicitly discussed only paid sick leave

That's simply not true. That's the MSM and party narrative, but it isn't the truth. Outlets less intertwined with the political establishment such as The Intercept and The Nation could have informed you better, had you bothered to look beyond the bubble.

in that sense they got their demand met completely

You mean in that entirely fictional sense? To quote the Nation piece:

this was never just a conflict over the number of paid sick days. About 115,000 workers represented by 13 separate craft unions, who keep 40 percent of the nation’s freight moving, got screwed. The coalition of interests that did the screwing includes: the executive boards of the seven class-1 carriers, most of Congress, and the president.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I love that railroad Striker story because it just makes identifying people online so easy. Because whenever people online complain about it it's either one or two things, it's either they're completely ignorant of this actual scenario and what actually happened or they're just being intellectually dishonest on purpose.

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[–] cheesebag@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

He's barely to the left of Joe Manchin

You know Biden & Manchin were in the same Senate together, right? So it's in fact quite easy to look up & see that this is completely false.

He was the most conservative Democrat candidate

That's not what voters thought during the primaries. This Business Insider ranking has him middle of the pack. And this Pew poll shows him having more liberal support than Bloomberg.

If you can show me a ranking of the candidates ideologies that shows Biden as the most conservative (actual data that supports your opinion, not just feelz), go ahead. I'll wait.

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