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I made this post because I am really curious if Linux is used in offices and educational centres like schools.

While we all know Windows is the mac-daddy in the business space, are there any businesses you know or workplaces that actually Linux as a business replacement for Windows?

I.e. Mint or Ubuntu, I am not strictly talking about the server side of things.

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I could officially install any Linux distro to the company laptop (which I did of course) fully replacing the wintoys. Could use the machine as I liked, no corporate mandated BS spyware or anything.

Yes, and when the company gets hacked they can sue you for not keeping "your" computer secure enough. When I started my career on the field I also had those ideias that companies are evil and want to spy on everyone and enforce stupid policies on computer and whatnot.

Eventually I moved to heavily restricted environments where once you see what's going on there you simply wouldn't even open WhatsApp on that machine, let alone surf unknown websites. You wouldn't do it not because the fear of being monitored but by the amount of liability you would be exposing yourself if you did. Trust me, the company isn't bad, predatory but at a certain level you simply think twice. In fact they even reconize that people might want to surf random websites or use some personal accounts and provide a secure virtualized extra browser (restricted from the internal network) but still no way in hell people even think about using it for something so simple such as WhatsApp.

To be fair, this way of thinking might be the best. Just assume people will want to have a personal messaging app, email or whatever on the side and deploy some virtualized / restricted local or remote solution so they can do it without creating risks for themselves or to the company. At least this way you're still under control and people wouldn't be trying to bypass your security everyday...

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and when the company gets hacked they can sue you for not keeping “your” computer secure enough.

Sounds very American point-of-view. Installation and usage was officially sanctioned. Most developers in both companies preferred to use Linux, some used Macs, wintoys users were a minority. Neither company had any super restrictive corporate BS on their wintoys installation. Neither company is based in the Americas. Both are local companies in the EU.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes but doesn't change the issue. That scenario will happen and no CTO on his right mind would allow indiscriminate and random tool usage as it opens the company to a ton of possible liability. If someone does then that person is just bad at their job.

usage was officially sanctioned

What do you mean by this? Is there an entire set of guidelines and security policies for both Windows, macOS and Linux users on the company? Like AV software they're required to run, do they lock Linux machines with policies like they do with Windows ones? How does it work? If they don't to any of the above then we're back to my previous asessement.

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 1 points 10 months ago

The point here is that the company trusts their employees to use the best tools for them, be secure and do the right thing. Be the most productive. Windows needs that kind of third party snake-oil like AV software and restrictive policies to run it somewhat secure. Most Linux distros are already secure by design out of the box. Drive-by malware and hacking are a thing in windows not Linux.

Of course there are best practices and guidelines for running your system securely, how to handle sensitive data etc.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This. Linux Management is a thing and needs to be more implemented. Immutable Distros and more can help here, and should totally be used.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Immutable distros are yet another future money grab attempt.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What? Dude thats some uninformed conspiracy bs. Ubuntu maybe, but the rest?

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

You'll remember my comment soon enough.