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Civ 6 is huge. Cities Skylines is great. Age of Empires is still huge and got republished. Company of Heroes is excellent. Total War never ends. Ridiculous.
I'm gonna nitpick you here. Civ 6 is not an RTS. City Skylines is not an RTS, although it has some nontraditional RTS elements. Total war is like a hybrid RTS.
Age of empires and company of heroes are RTSs. The thing that makes an RTS is the Real Time Strategy.
Civ is a turn based 4x. City Skylines is a city builder. Total war is a hybrid turn based 4x and RTS.
Stellaris
Stellaris is a 4x my friend, not RTS
why not RTS?
It's turn based. Played in rounds like other 4x games. It's possible for 4x games to have RTS elements, but the genre RTS is primarily building and battling individual units in real time.
To clarify, a game not being RTS specifically doesn't mean it's not a strategy game, or grand strategy. It's just not what the genre RTS defines.
Look at any of the following full RTS titles and see the difference: Age of empires, Command and Conquer, Warcraft III, Starcraft II, Company of heroes, Halo Wars, Warhammer 40k Dawn of War.
For what RTS hybrid looks like in 4x, look at the total war series, where the battles are fought on real time battle fields managing individual units.
it's not turn based.
RTS is not inclusive of any game based on whether it's turned based or not, it's a specifically defined genre of game.
of which stellaris seems to fit nicely.
Steam lists stellaris as 4x, real time with pause. You can decide that means something different all you want. I gave you the tools you need to figure it out.
Frankly, I don't have time to argue with someone about something trivial over the course of weeks. Later
you can pause AoE.
Go argue with steam. According to you they classified stellaris wrong. I don't care enough to tell you why it doesn't matter
so you agree it fulfills the criteria then?
No, I'm just not going to be goaded anymore. You're allowed to have your opinion. No one can take that from you, my guy.
I'm sorry if it's important to you that a random stranger on the internet agrees with you on a niche classification of your favorite game. I just don't care that much.
I gave you the resources to see for yourself. What you do with that is entirely up to you. In the meantime, I'm out. Don't expect me to reply from this point
but then would you agree that it fulfills all necessary criteria for RTS? it certainly seems to.
Your desperation is so thick you could cut it with a knife
have you had time to read the Wikipedia page about it?
I'm passionate about rts games bro. stellaris in particular. over 50 hours logged.
I just checked Wikipedia. Stellaris is referred to there as a real time grand strategy.
So perhaps your only mistake was under estimating the grandeur of the game?
Great argument. That doesn't make it rts
"Don't care. Strategy. Whatever."
Don't care. Strategy, whatever.
I don't care that you don't care. Different meanings exist.
You’re mixing turn based with real time
Don't care. Strategy, whatever.
I’m talking about RTS, you’re talking about Strategy.
We’re not the same.
Well the RT in RTS stands for Real Time