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As many already know, nvidia is not the best choice for linux and amd is always recommend when it is brought up, so here id like to ask an equivalent to my graphics card in amd, i know nothing about amd and dont really know where to start honestly.

GPU: gtx 1660 super processor: 11th gen i5-11400 2.60hgz x 6

what would be a similar or better choice from amd in terms of gpu that maybe doesnt cost an arm and a leg? Do nvidia or amd matter in terms of games?

any help would be very appreciated

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Keep using your Nvidia card, it is still good enough for 1080p gaming.

In general Nvidia is better on ray-tracing and upscaling to 4k, but AMD is catching up quickly on the latter. Nvidia is also better for AI, but that isn't so relevant for you I guess.

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, if you are set on upgrading, I'd look at any of their 6000 series, from the 6600 on up to the 6950XT. I don't recommend anything below the 6600 from that generation. Since you didn't give a price range, I gave you a GPU range. All of those GPU's are getting heavy discounts and they're all solid cards. Only thing to note is if you go for the 6800XT and above to make sure your power supply can handle it. While they weren't as bad as Nvidia, they could still suck down power.
I think I would personally recommend the 6700XT. I believe it has 12 GB of VRAM which will help it last longer in the coming years. 8 GB just doesn't cut it anymore.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ill keep an eye on the 6800xt than, maybe once it doesnt cost an arm ill get one, thanks

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, I upgraded from a GTX 1080 to a 6700XT and that was a noticeable improvement. 6700xt is pretty cheap by GPU standards these days.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

almost 400 euros is cheap nowadays???

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, yes. For what it's worth I picked mine up for $320 USD, so you can get them cheaper

[–] claymore@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not necessarily in the EU though, lol

I've been checking out GPUs to replace my 1060 since the pandemic and still haven't found something compelling to upgrade to, price/performance wise. I guess I got spoiled by my 1060 but low end cards are anemic and mid tier is overpriced. 7700 and 7800 will hopefully be somewhat intersting.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I‘ve been in the market for a gpu for half a year now. Made charts and tracked price development.

The gpu prices are not dropping anymore. They are stable for 3 months roughly and even increasing.

That’s why I pulled the trigger on a card that is hopefully worth the 300+ eurons :) I‘m trying to phase out my 3070 pandemic windows laptop for an ubuntu tower because I always get worried when the laptop has a lot to do.

The whole machine gets hot (temps in hwinfo are ok) and I fear that the constant thermal expansion will ruin it earlier rather than later. Also the small whiny fans are a pain to listen to for extended periods.

The firmware also is a proprietary mess which sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. Since I have a linux server for two years I suppose I‘ll manage somehow.

I don’t think last gen will drop soon, just a guess though. I‘d rather think that they get sold out soon and you need to buy used then. Which also are highly priced.

[–] claymore@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of what you said is true, I'm just cheap. Don't feel like dropping money on a low end card just to have it struggle @1080p in new games and "mid" range still feels inflated. Might also be regional pricing where I live is just more expensive. Ever since Mindfactory stopped shipping outside germany I can't find decent online stores, local or otherwise.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I dunno if it’s usable internationally but idealo checks a couple of vendors. Maybe that helps.

And yes, I can relate. I was in a bit of a bind as I‘d like to stop using my laptop to spare it from eventual heat death. Otherwise, I‘d maybe not have bought one.

But still, I don’t see gpu prices drop again since ai is buying them in bulk.

[–] deadbeef@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The context of this post is Linux on AMD cards, is there any support at all for raytracing or upscaling of any sort on Linux on either AMD or Nvidia? Serious question.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, both works fine on Linux, however ray tracing performance on AMD is especially bad with Linux right now.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

10-series cards have degraded dx12 performance on Linux, though (and likely always will).

Low D3D12 performance on Nvidia Pascal (and older) GPUs is expected and likely won't improve much. The hardware has a bunch of limitations that make it very hard to extract good performance. Turing fares better, but only AMD actually runs reasonably well right now.

So depending on what OP plays, it might even be necessary to upgrade if they want to play dx12 games on Linux.

[–] pitbuster@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Also Nvidia is still better for general computing (e.g. openCL). That may change when rustiCL finally catches up, but AMD implementation of openCL always gives problems.