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I’d like to see the breakdown between corporate and tech support on some of these.

All call center jobs suck. Are those low tenured numbers averaged in?

I may or may not have worked for Apple. After just a few months I was approached my a major tech company that was pretty soft and they offered me about 75% more with knowing absolutely 0 about me other than knowing I was capable of getting a job for Apple.

I worked there a long time ago, and it was shitty then too. Fairly lousy place to be

It’s cause Apple customers suck. -ex Apple employee

This study doesn’t indicate whether people take other jobs within the company (move around) which would be leaving a position.

Whats the best companies for employee retention?

Apple Retail in Italy is fucking toxic. Stay away from that nightmare if you can.

This data may be skewed. Tech companies grew substantially during Covid which would greatly reduce the average tenure.

Amazon for example grew from something like 900k worldwide employees to 1.2M which is a 33% in less than two years.

People saying they love changing jobs often. So they shouldn’t be surprised about retention rates. Isn’t that what every one’s says to do? Not stay at the same company for too long?

What a lot of people might not realize is that a significant number of people work at these tech giants to boost their resume and then they jump ship to company with a much better work life balance, maybe to join a startup, or to do something they’re more passionate about.

This is known at Apple, Google, Meta, etc. and so those companies have adjusted their expectations. I did a stint at a prestigious Fortune 500 and their director position was much lower on the org chart than you might expect but the work is grueling. When you left the company had your back and you’re immediately more attractive when on a job hunt.

I buy from apple business for work. I've been through four sales reps in two years. Some companies I've had the same person for a decade (granted he's moved up, but he still takes my calls).

Our research shows that tech giants comprise three of the five shortest average tenures among company workforces, with staff at Apple (1.7 years), Amazon and Meta both 1.5 years

So they're counting new hires as part of the average, and bringing the average down? Maybe they're just hiring a lot.

OpenAI will lead the list next time:)

I didn’t read if they gave reasons but having Apple on your resume is a bump when you’re moving on and up.

Just from personal experience.

When I worked at Apple as an At Home Advisor, we had sooo many people lose their jobs due to "internet issues". They'd ask me to tell the sup they'd be late because they couldn't sign in, but also tell me they overslept.

Apple at the time (2011-ish) had only so many times they'd put up with a bad connection being an issue. If you couldn't get it under control, they'd cut you loose.

I really wish they'd do that at my new job because we 100% have people citing network issues when absolutely nothing points to a legit issue. But no, we let people continue to "have issues" for 4-5 years before even considering firing them.

This is highly contingent on team and role. Apple and Amazon have a lot of call centers/ customer service positions relative to a company like Google which doesn’t really need to support as many products.

Looks like a lot of them are tech related companies so not such a big surprise, and obviously Apple's situation is due to Apple Retail in particular more-so than Apple Corporate based on what I've seen.

No.1 at everything 🍏

Surprising. But it is not just Apple. Look at Amazon and Meta also being really bad.

Google and Microsoft doing much better.

If high turnover isn’t a problem for some or all of these companies or if it’s even good for them, then they aren’t “worst” at retention - it’s their model.

ITT: a bunch of people who don’t work in big tech and have no clue what they’re talking about.

Damn, I was light weight, considering working part time at an Apple store just to get some of the benefits; specifically the discounts and being able to up my portfolio because apparently you get a discount on their shares somehow.

Retail is a revolving door. They’re never going to pay people enough or invest in their development to keep them engaged.

For non-retail, a lot of people who know to play the game put a 2-3 years somewhere build their resume up so they can leave and level up elsewhere.