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[โ€“] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone was "cancelled." That's a righty-wing bogeyman word with no definition.

Nothing any of these comedians said or did takes away the fact that when they deliver their acts, they bring down the house. They connect with the crowd and the crowd laughs, involuntarily! The crowds are voting with their laughs and any one of these legendary comedians on an average day can play any room and get laughs. You'd be lucky to witness it. Laughing is involuntary. If the crowd is laughing, can't say the act isn't funny, that's some election denying bullshit. You certainly won't find it funny if you don't realize it's an act. Punchlines aren't true statements of the comedian's personal point of view or opinion, they are an act. Sometimes the joke is that the thing was even said in the first place.

At any rate, all the examples I gave are real things that happened. The three most justifiable shit storms, against Kramer, CK, and to a lesser extent Chappelle, are examples I gave of the left coming after a comedian.

Bruce, you agree, is as an example of the right coming after a comedian. You are wrong to lump Dice Clay in with CK and Kramer; Dice Clay cleared the way for comedy as an artform, and, again, the crowds laughed.

A better example I'm sure you'll also agree is not justified is South Africa, where the political right simply banned stand up comedy as a practice. That's the usual example, too, in far right countries: no laughing allowed!

Man, if you can't find the humor in these people's acts, not just Seinfeld, but also Dice Clay, or whatever other dirty or sexist or whatever fart jokes you think you're too whatever to laugh at, all these comics would laugh at your discomfort, which is with one person standing in front of a room full of people and talking for an hour straight. Anyone can buy a ticket. How provocative could it possibly get before they get booed off stage? You should go to a Chappelle set and turn the crowd against him; just explain why he's not funny like you do online. Should be no problem for you.

[โ€“] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I'm not debating that they had good gigs and at those gigs made people laugh.

I'm saying that they did some shitty things, and their problem is not what they claim - that you can't do comedy any more. Its that society moved on without them and they don't know how to be funny any more. Yes they were funny, in context, in their respective haydays, but have since

  • done a racism
  • done a sex crime
  • dated minors
  • done a hatecrime

If I was an Olympic figure skater arrested for robbing and killing the attendant at the gas station, it would be incorrect for me to say "Man people really hate Olympic figure skating nowadays - I guess everyone's too sensitive about skating, you just can't skate any more"

No, bruv, you blew a teenagers brains out over a kitkat, it's nothing to do with figure skating.