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[–] Bye@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You can make anything look bad by removing the next bad comparison though. Like if a pickup truck were there, everything would look good. Remove the car and add a scooter, windsurfing, rollerblading, and rolling downhill, and the e-bike looks bad.

[–] stiephel@feddit.de 12 points 8 months ago

True, but the comparison in this case seems reasonable nonetheless. I just wish they had included fossil fuel cars, too

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not really. The F150 Lightning's efficiency is ~270Wh/km city which means a small EV is only a 50% improvement vs 95% for ebike.

Also, this graph is helpful given our current situation. Maybe once we're mostly at the 95% better than an F150 Lightning solution (e-bikes), it might be worth being concerned with energy efficiency, but we're not there.

[–] Bye@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I meant a regular pickup truck

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So 0Wh/km as they don't run on electricity? 🤷‍♂️

[–] Bye@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

One watt is just a joule per second. You can absolutely compute that for gas vehicles, the same way electric vehicles have mpg equivalent

[–] InternationalKnee69@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

By that logic walking and regular bikes would also be 0Wh/km. But Wh isn't a unit of electricity

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

AFAIK, our muscles work by electricity. Soooo....