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Hey, comrades. I am new to lemmygrad and find it odd that there are so many marxist-leninist defending a war of agression started by an oligarch, possibly the richest man in the world. I get that you want to say that NATO is a source of evil on the global stage, but in this particular case you are defending Putin, a warlord, who has invaded many of his neighbouring countries and has stated plans to continue his campaign for megalomanial reasons.

No war but class war. Enabling an autocrat fascist oligarch does not do anything to counter the bad stuff done by NATO and the community should take a firm stand against the use of war for the sake of satisfying the dreams of a tyrant.

This is not a troll post or anything to that extent. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I think it needed to be said.

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[–] Raphael@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a simple 1-2-3 process.

  • I hate nazis more than anything, I'll bash Ukraine but I won't defend Putler.
  • However, should Russia fall, the United States would be even more powerful.
  • I hate the US more than I hate Putin and for this reason I'm rooting for Russia even though I wish Putler died.

And Russia needs to stay alive and relevant, someone over there will eventually revive the Soviet Union.

[–] WageSlave@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Do you really think that the millions of displaced and I do not dare guess how many killed were all nazis? The reason socialists in general oppose war is that it is a tool for the bourgeoisie to continue and extend their oppression of the masses. How many innocents need be sacrificed for one nazi in your opininion? I think zero.

  • Russia is in decline and has been since the fall of the Soviet Union. The power of the US on the global stage is mainly checked by China, and if anything there are other developing countries in far better positions to challenge US hegemony than Russia. Root for someone else worth rooting for.

  • Countries fighting for global hegemony will always be at the expense of the working class and even more so for those in the smaller countries in their spheres of influence. If you think there is something to be gained from this I think you should reconsider.

I do not think the Soviet Union will be revived and surely not by Putin winning his wars. Creation is done through peace not conquest. Socialism is done by and for the many, not the few.

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really think that the millions of displaced and I do not dare guess how many killed were all nazis?

When one nazi sits at a table with nine others, and they don't either get up or stomp that motherfucker out, then the table has ten nazis. Simple as.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'm no Ukraine/NATO supporter by any means, but I wouldn't completely fault random civilians for the rise of Nazis in Ukraine. Even actual Nazi Germany had a bunch of non-nazi people in it (who either fled or were promptly imprisoned/killed, but you get my point). To use your analogy, it's more like the Nazis are in the city, own the government and are a big part of the military and are pervasive in society, rather than physically at every table and not every person will have the opportunity or capability to stomp them out. I sure wouldn't enjoy getting killed by enemies of my government over here, even though I would fully support it ending. Of course, I don't think we should hold this same leniency towards the actual military personnel.