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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The opposite, we end capitalism. We really can't expect to carry the scorpion across the lake without repeatedly being stung. There are many political branches that tells us how it could be, and even some that have been applied in the real world with varying degrees of success but generally, we need to start working amongst ourselves like we used to do in the past and remove those actually in power, not only their squabbling representatives every election. It's about time. Safeguards only delay the problem, those are being systematically dismantled all around the world because capital is running out of space to expand.

What's your worry about status? I see a nation with good infrastructure that isn't heavily depending on exploitative dynamics on other countries as a nation without much to lose, honestly. Things tend to not go as well as planned on places where it was already bad in the first place.

[–] Dewded@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If one country begins sharing resources and wealth, it will get stomped by the others that don't.

Capitalism can't be stopped without a violent revolt of colossal proportions. We're talking billions of people dead, displaced or left vengeful. It's a recipe for disaster.

Peaceful options won't work at global scale. Even if people begin to vote with their hearts en masse, it won't change nations where voting is moot.

I'm against violence, so the best I can see happening in my lifetime is me understanding and living with the system we inhabit and trying to alter what little I can in my small country for future generations.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nobody is advocating for sharing with bad actors. Billions of people dead? No, revolution is violent but history shows it is usually very far away from this number. Capitalism killed more in the third world.

I'm not thrilled for getting state violence on my ass because I want a better life either, but I don't think capitalism will ever be able to deal with climate change, which will be the biggest killer in humanity. In fact it is only getting worse and we are running out of time fast. We have been trying gradual change for decades with barely any actual results...