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[–] Ategon@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Anyone's free to comment here. Meta decisions apply to any users of the instance regardless of where your account is hosted

Hexbear we are federated with but its a half federation where a bunch of their communities have been hidden by default in all of the feeds (including the community youre referring to). Usually things are fine with them interacting in the threads here locally and we haven't had any issues due to it being a specific niche

(Theres out of instance stuff but that should be up to that instance to handle them)

Also going to try to get a better instance block in at some point that allows people to block users if they want that level of control rather than just the communities. Just want these sorts of things to be determinable at the user level rather than instance level defederations since ultimately things are mostly fine

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

For the first paragraph: year fair. I'll likely do some more additions to our admin guidelines for expected conduct on non admin accounts and I can do a general expected conduct when participating in the instance (for all instance users) for behaviors that anyone shouldn't do regardless of whether they're an admin or not. Can add that to the support site im making

Most of the pronoun situation just stems from discrepancies in different frontends where the "main" frontend shows it but most people are on mobile apps that don't show it leading to people assuming visibility when that isnt the case. In your second paragraph people who don't realize the discrepancy in these frontends may think they're making it clear as you say

But yeah overall things in the conversation wasnt done maliciously and was able to be resolved fine

There was some other branches other than the pronoun situation although that was one of the main ones pointed out to me for defederation reasons

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dev of said fork here, not technically established, just has been in development. There is a much larger project in the works but it hasn't been announced publicly yet and its also in development

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

the issue is there isnt such thing as an instance-only community

if you mimic the actions I did above but on the community level rather than the post level you might be able to do it but new instances pulling the community for federation after you did it wouldnt be affected by that so you would need to seed it in the instances ahead of time or keep doing it

a second way would be reaching out to other admins to remove the community from their instance but that involves talking to a ton of different instances

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 15 points 10 months ago (9 children)

There is technically a roundabout way you can do it although it involves a bit of actions

I havent fully tested it so may need some variation of the actions to work but:

  1. Post gets created as normal in the instance
  2. Post get removed through the lemmy ui so that it sends a removal federation action and removes the post everywhere it was federated to
  3. Post get unremoved in the database by changing the removed value to false. As this is changing the value itself rather than sending an action this does not federate and only unremoves it for the instance itself
[–] Ategon@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

btw I made a post in our instance meta community if you want to read it. Been trying to resolve the situation !meta@programming.dev

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There is a distinguish option that adds a shield but its a bit redundant since it marks you with the flairs anyways

Only way to really get around it for now is the multiple accounts

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hey, im actually doing a post right now with some screenshots. Should be up in a bit on meta

(was also the one that purged the conversation. things should still be in the modlog if youre interested in digging around for it)

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

hey im one of the lead admins of programming.dev

ive been talking with ada + the other admins privately and im drafting up an announcement right now for the instance but just wanted to give a little response here since it targets the users of the instance a bit

snowe sent a message apoligizing to ada and weve been getting things set up so this kind of thing cant happen again. The people in my instance havent really been doing anything in the thread (the ones that have have been relatively respectful about it) (havent seen the things you said in there by them). The hexbear comments wouldnt make sense anyways since we federate with hexbear (in a limited mode where some of their communities are hidden but still).

Im aiming to get this resolved and just want to ask to please not escalate the situation and throw instances against each other while it gets handled

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

We have been talking about it internally currently (+ was talking with ada). I'm planning to do a post tomorrow

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There typically will always be some form of controversy, tends to be just how the admins handle that

I try to keep this instance federated with instances as much as reasonable (the only lemmy instances we really defederate with are burggit and rqd2 since their instance rules break our instance rules, lolicon+DMCA ignoring for the first and very questionable communities in the second (zoophilia, MAP)) and were dealing with the situation in this post internally currently to solve the situation here with blahaj. Should make a post in meta probably tomorrow

I can give some recommendations of some instances with admins ive had positive experiences with (im one of the programming.dev leads though if that affects my stances on this)

  • startrek.website - I dont talk with these admins much but the instance tends to be pretty positively viewed across lemmy
  • slrpnk.net - one of the other niche instances. Admins seem relatively chill and I dont have anything negative regarding them. Active in helping stop spam accounts (defeds with hexbear + lemmygrad)
  • lemmings.world - has been pretty active in making tooling to help out a bunch of admins + the fediverse in general. Made uptime badges that some instances use, a linking system so you can link to something that sends people to the copy of it on their own instance, and a gui for fediseer which a bunch of admins use to keep track of defederations + endorsements (defeds with hexbear + rqd2)
[–] Ategon@programming.dev 33 points 10 months ago

The way the instance is set up theres multiple lead admins

snowe tends to be in charge of infrastructure side of things while I do development and community management. snowe is listed first in the admin list but I basically have the exact same access to the site resources

Not trans, just use any/all pronouns

 

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