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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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"Walt Bismarck," a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:

In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.

The particular delight here is the section "Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup".

It turns out they don't like him, they don't like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don't take to him. The frauleins prefer "stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains" over his noble mind and physique.

In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.

(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)

Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:

But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.

There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.

In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.

Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.

The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.

original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.

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[–] cwood@awful.systems 18 points 8 months ago

I'm always very nonplussed about what claims to pass for thought in white nationalist crowds.

The stopped-clock moment in this whole is definitely where he dimly grasps that Republican audiences are way more openly positive to white nationalism than they were.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

So I've never heard of (or maybe I've forgotten about) The Motte. It seems to claim to be a sort of "rational discussion is welcome no matter your viewpoint" kind of place, but IME places that go out of their way to tell you that in THIS many words, are actually "we welcome right-wing views under the guise of welcoming everyone's views, but really we would like some right wing views to be posted."

What is this place?

This website is a place for people who want to move past shady thinking and test their ideas in a court of people who don't all share the same biases. Our goal is to optimize for light, not heat; this is a group effort, and all commentators are asked to do their part.

The weekly Culture War threads host the most controversial topics and are the most visible aspect of The Motte. However, many other topics are appropriate here. We encourage people to post anything related to science, politics, or philosophy; if in doubt, post!

They've got a long list of rules in the sidebar, none of which seem to be "bigotry not welcome."

My question - am I getting the wrong idea because I just read that one thread (which seems mostly right wing folks) or is it indeed yet another "We claim to be for everyone as our cover, but we're really for the right" kind of a place?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In addition to what David said the motto is also a spinoff of Slatestarscodex reddit, where they had a 'culture war' thread which was a containment thread for the culture war topics (which is a bad idea, containment threads cause spillover in the rest of the community (see for example discords with 'everything goes' meme channels or the ur example /pol/), which was spin off from the subreddit because it was getting so bad. Scott (slatestarcodex) played the game of cryptoneoreactionary 'sorry you feel that way' disavowal of the thread but still vague endorsed themotte.

I'm still annoyed I didn't take screenshots of the replies on themotte trying to recruit people into blood and soil (a neo-nazi term if you are not up to that terminology) homesteading community. I still wonder if they deleted their own reply, themotte mods did it (doubtful as they seem to be very into also leaving mod messages for transparancy) or if it was the reddit admins.

Anyway, the place sucks, and basically anything vile goes there if you use enough words, references, and are vague enough about it. (So don't say 'I want to kill people who cheat' you write a 4000k word post on your ideal society which includes references to capital punishment for cuckolds).

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 16 points 8 months ago

and feel there are a number of nonracial issues that have since become much more important than the things WNs fixate on

like staying out of jail? and making profit off loons? at least, I'm guessing those are the priorities

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Whenever I find something like this from an author I haven't heard of before, I try to look them up to make sure I'm not being ragebaited by an imaginary person for the sake of ad revenue(although being hosted archive.org makes that mostly moot). Holyshit, this guy use to make Alt-right disney parodies and was proud enough to upload them. OneyPlays rips into the guy here. This guy is a perfect parody of alt-right smooth brainlessness. No wonder he thinks stereotypes are real. He's a living one.

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