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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean they are people who were approved for studying in Ukraine. It's not like things are calming down in Ukraine any time soon so makes sense they'd be looking to go home? Maybe I misunderstood the situation.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why not simply let them continue their studies in Europe. An unfinished degree is completely useless.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I guess they could apply for that. But it's not like EU owes them a degree or something before sending them home. It's a shitty situation for them for sure.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that at least from what I know, they can not apply for that. EU countries don't let people from most African countries study in the EU, there are wide blank bans in place.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean if they're not eligible for any student programs in the EU then they'll probably have to go home.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It just feels wrong that we allow ukrainian students of ukrainian universities to stay, but gave all other students of Ukrainian universities a random time period and they cant finish their studies.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine is at war. It's not the same.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Again: all of them are studying at Ukrainian universities. All of them could go to Ukraine and finish the studies there. Or finish their studies in Europe.

The EU makes the distinctive choice to let certain students stay and not let other students stay.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Ukraine is at war, obviously we're not sending students back to a country that's at war. Nigeria isn't at war. Their students can go back to Nigeria just fine, even if sucks to do so without the promised degree.

The EU makes the distinctive choice to let certain students stay and not let other students stay.

Well of course it does and it's very sensible to do so.

[–] sic_1@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How about they contribute studying in Europe? It's not like we don't need skilled workers over here...

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

I'm sure they could apply for that

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, the german minister of finances is desperately trying to attract students from Ghana to work in Germany.

https://youtu.be/SabzfswWQTM?si=v2vOOCfYHVKPj7eK

[–] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why? They were in Ukraine and from what I see they were allowed to stay 2 years in the EU. It's shit they didn't get to graduate but it's not EU's fault. They should apply for a university in the EU, I'm sure they can find a good uni to continue their studies.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Let's maybe also look at the fact that these are in fact European-educated students rather than just people with the wrong nationality. Throwing them out of the EU will not only generate ill will toward the EU but nearly universally be a loss to their former host country.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Seems like their ill will would be misplaced. It was because of Russia attacking Ukraine that their foreign exchange student thing fell through. It was nice to give them two years to hope things go back to normal in Ukraine but that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They should apply for a university in the EU, I’m sure they can find a good uni to continue their studies.

Yeah, no. It is extremely difficult for non-EU non-EFTA citizens to study in the EU (or immigrate in general for any reason).

[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So they should get a free pass?

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

You have an attitude towards them "sucks to be you, deal with it"

My attitude is more like "man that's really unfair they're in this pickle to no fault of their own, and we have the ability and the means to help them to no disadvantage to us, let's help them"

I wonder if your feelings were different they were Canadians?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If only you knew the bureaucracy in some countries

[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes some countries have nightmarish bureaucracy, but for studying, I think it's easier than wanting to move there. I have empathy for the whole situation. I don't think it's an EU problem.