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Labour is reportedly considering a scheme that would see asylum seekers’ claims processed elsewhere.

Keir Starmer is mulling “detailed plans” for an offshoring scheme as he seeks to deter Tory attacks on Labour’s alternative to the Rwanda plan, the Times said on Monday.

The Labour leader has previously dismissed the plan to deport people to the African nation as a “gimmick” and made clear his party’s opposition.

However, the shadow home secretary, Yvette Cooper, and shadow immigration minister Stephen Kinnock have reportedly been speaking to asylum experts, former home secretary David Blunkett and other European countries to draw up an alternative proposal to tackle small boats crossings in the Channel.

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[–] mannycalavera 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is just tinkering around the edges of the real problem. The HomeOffice is utterly shit and not fit for purpose. It needs root and branch reform and it needs bringing into the modern era. These gimmick policies from the Tories and now Labour won't do shit and will only waste money. Why the fuck is the HomeOffice incapable of processing applications quickly. That's what other countries do.

[–] Cras 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well hang on - if you hand the problem of processing the applications off to a third party along with suitably constructed incentives and penalties to ensure fast and accurate processing in line with our actual rules on asylum, isn't that solving the problem rather than tinkering with it? The problem is blatantly that the government slow rolls the applications because a graph that shows an increase in asylum applications being granted is political suicide - and the home office follow their lead. Give it to a neutral third party and you can avoid looking like you're going easy on people whilst also doing a fast and effective job of assessing the claims

[–] mannycalavera 2 points 11 months ago

You maybe in to something but I don't have any faith in the HomeOffice absolving themselves of responsibility behind a third party contract which will, let's face it, not be as watertight as we would hope.

HomeOffice: it wasn't our fault, it was the fault of Asylum Processing Solutions Ltd

APS: we abide by the contract set with the HomeOffice.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Labour leader has previously dismissed the plan to deport people to the African nation as a “gimmick” and made clear his party’s opposition.

While explicit backing for an offshoring scheme would mark a significant shift for Labour, Starmer did signal earlier this month that he would not be opposed to considering such an approach.

Labour has been contacted for comment about the report, which claims that the party has drawn up “three tests” for the scheme – that it is cost-effective, credible enough to deter migrants and would avoid the legal challenges that have delayed the Rwanda plan.

The prime minister, Rishi Sunak, and the home secretary, James Cleverly, are hoping fresh legislation, now in the Commons, will be enough to revive the flagship policy after it was declared unlawful by the supreme court earlier this year.

A Labour “red line” would be any scheme that would automatically block migrants being granted asylum in the UK, according to the Times, and British officials would be required to be in charge of processing claims.

In the early 2000s, Blunkett and the Tony Blair government were believed to be in talks with Tanzania about the possibility of housing asylum seekers in the country while claims were processed in the UK.


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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

This issue is toxic for both parties. People have strong feelings about it on both sides but few people truly understand the problem.