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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Because trains are massively inconvenient to anyone that isn't living in AND traveling to the most dense of urban areas.

[–] plandeka@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As always depends where you live. I live in Frankfurt am Main and travel to my parents in Poland who live in a 3k village with a train. One change in Berlin, one in Poland in a smaller city to a very local train which takes me to 4km from their home, where they finally do pick me up with a car.

With a car it would take at least 12h (been there, done that when I moved), similar amount of money for gas and I would have to take a day off from work, which I don't have to do on the train, because I work remotely on the way. I can also shit without stopping or eat on the train if I have a fancy. How is this inconvenient?

I made trips to Italy, France, Austria, Romania and ofc Poland with trains. And at least half of them were to not urbanized areas at all (for example France was to Port-en-Royans, population 817 people, when I got off around 5km from destination) and the only inconvenience is that you need some effort with planning.

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[–] nick26@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We 100% need more trains. But in rural America, we need cars to do anything.

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[–] soulifix@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Simple - Tracks vs Road ratio.

[–] dimlo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s not remotely easier. Trains carriages are easy to build, but the infrastructure is not. You have to move and extend roads, demolish buildings, lay the rails, build bridges, if you go underground there will be lots of digging and engineering work to protect nearby buildings, and don’t forget about maintenance. It is only profitable when the population is high enough and people have the need to travel to set places en mass. Otherwise it is just fantasy. If you live your whole live around any city Center, I can understand that you are not going to drive . But plenty of people lived in a tiny town of population under 10000people .

[–] bonnetbee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Please explain to me: how is it possible to build a new highway through Berlin but so damn hard to build a railway through rural area?

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Because as the wiseman said, somebody just wants to sell more cars.

[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Been seeing a big push for trains in Florida and California lately, hopefully things with Amtrak go well and we see more lines implemented in the future

[–] UhBell@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (32 children)

You ever try taking your new mattress and bed frame on a train?

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