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I mean there's Reddit ofc, as well as Twitter in its entirety, Discord is implementing some dumb updates, there are issues with Tumblr as well as everything to do with Meta, and I'm sure there are plenty more (and I haven't even touched other digital media, for example the Sims). Why is it all happening in the span of about a couple months?

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[–] AshenPaladin@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know honestly, greed probably. But it's such a shame. It seems like the internet as a whole is heading in a horrible direction, and not enough people care about it for there to be something done about it.

[–] emptyother@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The climate is heading in a horrible direction, and not enough people care. Politics are heading in a horrible direction, and you know what? Not enough people care!

Sorry, the last 4 years has made me very cynical. And I'm in a particularly blue mood today.

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[–] ratskrad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the main problem with these companies and the startup/tech bro culture (mostly in the US) is that they are growing for the sake of just growth itself, because they want to get their own. The original idea is to grow as big as they can, IPO, then sell it off. They weren't designing things to be profitable from the start. So eventually they all reach a stage where they are hemorrhaging money too much, and that is where all the enshittification happens (investors come in, they try to make it a real business now, but it wasn't really feasible to be a business to begin with).

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[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The venture capitalists that have funded these programs at a loss for years have decided they want to see a return.

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[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

its the eshitification of the internet....it's inevitable

[–] Habnab@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out infinite growth without covering your costs doesn't work out

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[–] puck2@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Because they are all beholden to shareholders, not users (or prepping for IPO)

[–] defulmere@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[–] 0xCAFE@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Honestly? I don't care. I don't use corporate "social" media and I'm very happy with the Fediverse. If you do something for profit, profit will always come first. Even before I became a Fedizen, I knew public discourse cannot reliably be provided by greedy corporations. I'm just surprised it didn't happen earlier and that the people are surprised about what's happening now.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago
[–] Haus@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We see that Twitter was been purposely twisted to be a comfortable space for neo-Nazis. We know spez's politics. It doesn't take much of a leap to conclude that he's killing off the moderator class to make Reddit more friendly for the neo-Nazis. Most likely though that's just a convenient side-effect of unbridled greed, though.

[–] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I mean the guy is literally a millionaire prepper who wants to own slaves in the apocalypse and personally reopened gamergate subs back in the day.

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[–] schaffertom@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cory Doctorow has some very interesting blogposts on the topic. He call it enshittification. It's more or less the business model of plattform Capitalism.

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[–] fing3r@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] SterlingVapor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

My theory? It's Musk.

He's going around saying he only lost bots and scammers, that he's made Twitter profitable, and that advertisers are back and happier than ever

He isn't showing his numbers and there's no way his claims are true, but he's saying what they all want to hear. "Don't worry guys, you can squeeze your users for cash hard as you want, and they might grumble about it but they'll soon come crawling back"

There's also increased pressure to become profitable ASAP, much of it is likely due to the economy, but Musk lying through his teeth is probably getting to the other billionaires. It's worth mentioning, if you're a billionaire the only reason to still care about money is for bragging rights

[–] Peeko@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalism. Companies go public (or already were public) and then they can no longer be happy with what they had and need to acheive infinite profit growth. That's partially why companies like Valve, that are still luckily entirely private, can make seemingly consumer-focused decisions and not just chase infinite profits. That's how they've been able to invest so heavily in Linux with such little short term gains. Valve still makes shitty decisions sometimes but it would be 10x worse if they decided to go public.

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[–] jjoelson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Twitter is sui generis because they were acquired impulsively by a maniac. But for the others, I think it’s just that interest rates were super low for a long time and now they’ve gone back up to a more historically normal level.

[–] Rand_alFlagg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It's nothing new. It's becoming more spectacular as the people doing it are richer and richer. Geocities sold to Yahoo, who promptly murdered it. LiveJournal sold itself to a Russian banker, which caused most non-Russian users to abandon it. Tom sold MySpace to Rupert Murdoch for like 500 million and bowed out, and MySpace was driven into the ground. The buyers are getting bigger an bigger but the results of trying to squelch users has always been the same - the platform is abandoned.

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