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[–] RamdomSlaphead 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“We’re determined to get this through as quickly as possible. So the real question is: is the Labour Party going to stand in the way and stop this from happening, or are they going to work with us and support this Bill so we can get it through as quickly as possible?"

Is this some sort of weird 3d chess thing that I'm too dumb to understand? " labour won't back our batshit plan, so we'll teach them a lesson, and call an election. Which they'll win. And then they won't enact our batshit plan. "

Nope, I don't get it at all.

[–] Syldon 11 points 1 year ago

It is nothing more than a threat to the factions within the Tory party. Even if the Lords accepted this new legal statement/law or whatever it is, it does not change the how the judges deemed Rwanda. There was nothing that said because the UK said Rwanda is not safe. It was stating Rwanda is fundamentally not a safe place to send refugees who are waiting to be processed. Having the UK parliament declare something other than it is will not change that fact.

He is basically giving them (the Tory crazy bunch) a head's up. Look I will look like I am dealing with this. You can use this to appease your batshit crazy supporters. The alternative is an election.

[–] snacks 12 points 1 year ago

“look here lads. the last thing you want is an election. lets threaten the judges with one”

its not much of a strategy. As discussed the other day, a reasonable time frame would be spring now. Any earlier is too soon to get the horses in a line, and polling is disastrous.

The sooner we get this horror show out the better. The last 14 years have been hell, one disaster after the next

[–] mannycalavera 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure the threat of a general election is a lever Sunak can pull at this time.

[–] IbnLemmy 7 points 1 year ago

He hasn't ever won an election and he has zero chance of ever winning one.

[–] GreyShuck 3 points 1 year ago

Hoping that the rebellion over Starmer's stand on Palestine will be enough to avoid total tory wipeout?

he's not entirely stupid here considering there's a lot of deeply racist people in this country and starmer has basically dismissed the entirety of the left who he'd need to balance that out