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Mr. Altman’s departure follows a deliberative review process [by the board]

"god, he's really cost us... how much can we get back?"

which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board

not only with the board, kids

hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities

you and me both, brother

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this is brutal. even CEOs fired for sexual harassment don't get a firing this brutal. WTF did Sam do to rate this? other shoe is approaching from orbit

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Open AI costs an outrageous amount of money to run and although it's not as empty as metaverse or web3, it was incredibly overhyped in its potiential, as usual.

He probably thought like uber and other companies he could run cash negative for a while and play the game everybody plays. But debt is not cheap now, and he likely had to lie to investors to keep things alive. They probably all lost a chunk of money when you actually look at the books.

Edit: more news came out that the chief scientist and the board organized a coup to get him out under the pretense he was going too fast.

Open AI is a for profit company owned by a non-profit, which brings a huge conflict when it comes to scientific advancement versus product monetization. It may be that they were totally wrong in doing this legally speaking (the non-profit) but did the right thing for scientific advancement and the human race itself.

We'll know more soon I expect

[–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago

my hand reaching for the SICKOS meme like a gunslinger reaching for a revolver during a showdown

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago

My guess is the board found out they aren’t allowed into his doomsday bunker and decided they couldn’t be fwiends anymore

[–] self@awful.systems 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

orange site thread which is so popular dang has had to do his standard begging so folks go easy on paully g’s surely world class Lisp code running the site (fucking imagine running a programming site on a shit single-threaded server you can’t fix)

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the thread is too gigantic to do pull quotes, but the number of poor delusional fucks who’ve decided this must be due to Altman’s business genius (somehow), the birth of an AGI that’s blackmailing the board, that this is just how executive boards normally act, or are just generally arguing that these severely out of touch rich folk must all be acting reasonably and legally in spite of all experience to the contrary is kind of astounding

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ink on his dismissal letter isn't even dry (modern HP printers suck!) and people are putting this kinds of websites out there already. Somebody didn't think if they should while it was clear they couldn't. "Site built with ❤️ and ChatGPT" (Also starting a gossip website isn't love).

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

tough ❤️

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

Historical examples like Apple, Uber, and WeWork show that such moves often led to stagnation or even GPUs.

Proving once again that text generation is at its best when it mimics the first step of the "write high, edit sober" process.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know

I’ve load tested my fucking still-wordpress blog some years back, and even then I managed to get something like 1600~1700rps out of it without at all trying hard (read: “I think I changed the fpm pool at some point”)

I am of course not surprised their software is the way it is (subversion commits are dangerous to a man of paulie g’s stature, of course), but it is hilariously recursively poignant: the very site where you may find a number of Weekend Code This-ers who - because of the mere trick of advancement in computing technology - may actually be right (for writing a new orange site)……just couldn’t

Who said satire is dead?!

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What? This can't be real? My custom code I cooked last year for a webservice in python is able to run multiprocess by now. How do there people still have high-paying jobs and I am stuggling monthly? goddamn!

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t imagine how bad Arc (the fucking ugly Lisp variant paully g wrote hacker news in) must be if it’s a Racket DSL that can’t use any of Racket’s many threading abstractions

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

It's designed to be the perfect language for writing 2001 e commerce websites in.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do there people still have high-paying jobs and I am struggling monthly?

Because people get paid not for technical output but for popularity of the products they create (And if you don't own the company then you don't even get that). bla bla bla capitalism bla bla markets bla bla

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ye I'm aware of the systematic injustice, just wanted to rant a bit :D

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago

I figured, I also wanted to rant a bit. Post in TechTakes, it is cheaper than therapy.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 14 points 1 year ago

replaced with a very small shell script

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What (from a heavily downvoted comment there):

"Is Helen Toner CIA or just the kind of person who talks to Stare Department employees in secure locations several times a quarter? She has a degree in CIA from CIA university and works at an institute that is have in glove with USFEDGOV."

New conspiracy theory, the CIA forced Altman out.

(Also the LW style site sucks so much for linking comments)

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wow this is an awfully unhealthy signal for a supposedly extremely successful company to be broadcasting, though I suppose I shouldn’t be shocked that Altman is such a shithead that not even OpenAI can tolerate him for long

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

I’m sure they can just ask ChatGPT for a strategy on how to deal with this

……..wait

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

(okay I admit this is a bit of a lazy sneer but I saw it in passing and it wasn't here yet, and being far past my spoon budget for the day I did a partial)

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

OK, what will the other shoe be when it drops? Embezzling? Sexual harassment?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

Given the recent SBF all% speedruns…

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My prediction, he was fired because he doesn't take the risk of AGI seriously enough. The next CEO is going to end up here a lot. Because that would be the silliest option, them ignoring the stories from his sister, any embezzlement or harassment but full on going 'he picked stopping the torture instead of stopping the dust specks'

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the new one apparently takes Yudkowsky seriously

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ow god... what have I done, I 'The Secret'ed this.

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

fucken weasel

[–] maol@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

The girlssss are fightinnnnggg!!!!!!!