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[–] art@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I will torrent the latest movie, but I will buy the latest album from my favorite band directly off Bandcamp. Might even buy a t-shirt or some stickers.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I don’t pirate games because Steam just makes it more convenient, and sites like IsThereAnyDeal make it easy to find sales.

However, as someone that’s been a hobbyist developer for 15 years, and never really been able to overcome the imposter syndrome to be able to publish anything, I’d be happy if someone thought my game was even worth the time to pirate, much less be paid for.

[–] Deadeyegai@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think for movies and music this is totally true. Video games less so but not impossible

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I can't think of the last game I wanted to play that wasn't cracked within week 1

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[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

I can afford Crunchyroll at this point, but I still watch exclusively from Aniwave (formerly 9anime)

[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Piracy is whatever. Using an old school ass MP3 player in 2023 is unhinged though. I'm sure their phone can do whatever that MP3 player can do just as easily.

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[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What a twat. Imagine your personality being you don't support creatives because you are addicted to stealing.

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How many times do we have to write this exact line? "Piracy is not stealing, as the original remains in the hands of the owner. Piracy is simply making a copy and distributing it."

It''s not a morally correct act to be sure, however we really need to come up with a better terminology.

I do agree with your assessment of this particular twat though.

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[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or, pirate because it’s what Jesus would do.

Jesus 2024 gets sent straight to jail for just copy pasting everything for everybody, completely ruining the economy. You wouldn’t just download food for the hungry? Think about the corpo farms.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

The RIAA drove me to piracy in the early days.

Then stuff like Google Play music came along and I stopped because I can actually pay for basically any song I want to listen to, all at my fingertips and that is still true. It makes me happy to support the artists and their music though I know they don't get very much of the cut.

The MPAA was much of the same story.

Then Netflix happened and I was all set for the same thing to happen, but it didn't. Now streaming is almost as fractured as cable TV packages, and I went right back to piracy.

Screw it. I don't feel bad about it because they haven't shown any regard for the people they continually exploit, namely their customers. They don't give any shits if I financially sink while trying to afford to enjoy the things that they make, so I won't give any shits about their financial situation while I enjoy it anyways. Fuck them.

[–] InstallGentoo@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Ironically piracy actually costs more than streaming if you intend to preserve media.

[–] NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How so?

I have 32tb, bit overkill 8 tb HDD ~$180 X4= $720

Netflix (no ads) 22.99 22.99/720=31.3

As long as you use it for 3 or so years, it pays for itself. The only difference is you have both the hardware and the movies forever.

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[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Not really over a 5 year period, especially if you talk about more than a single subscription service. If you mean by preserve as keeping a full 3-2-1 backup, then yeah sure, but most people don't need that. Double backup the truly important/rare content, everything else can be redownloaded in case of tragedy.

For posterity, 1 year of HBO Max or Disney+ is $150. Over 5 years that's $750. If you are someone who knows you annually rewatch content, then that's likely a guaranteed expense. Btw, if you pay month to month unless it's less than 8 months of the year, monthly is more expensive, so I'm being generous here. No managing monthly subscriptions is also a major benefit.

That price nets you at least six 8TB HDD's at $109 each, which 48TB is far more storage than most people would ever need so some of that cost can go to a power efficient Optiplex and some to spare for a VPN leaving you with at least 32TB.

As mentioned, each additional streaming service is going to exponentially increase that cost, further justifying your investment, and the peace of mind that whatever service hasn't removed it.

Technically you use your time to pay for "setting up and maintaining it" but... That's some BS honestly. Plex/Jellyfin are set up once and forget about them. Us nerds put in time to curate and go the extra mile, but most people can very easily have a simple low power server running. If they can set up the *arrs (not really very hard) then good automation for them, if not manually searching for what you want as you want it is one more step than a subscription. More steps if you need to sign up for the first time ;)

Granted - a streaming service doesn't charge you $325 for the initial server+storage, however streaming services also don't give you a lot of things for 2.10 years of streaming so I'd say it's worth the investment. And it definitely does not cost more to preserve your media if you subscribe to more than 1 service. If you subscribe to only one and cancel monthly and spend your time managing that then maybe. (but if you don't need 4k and consume that little content, you may still be better off with a Pi-like and a hard drive...)

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[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

From Limewire to QBitorrent, I've been sailing since I've had a computer.
It's crazy that people aren't aware of the alternatives out there, when all it takes is a little googling. But I guess that's just a sign that the likes of Netflix and Spotify have a stranglehold on mainstream consumers though

[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally don't believe in copyright. Nobody should be able to own an idea or data and be able to tell me what i can and cannot do with said 1s and 0s, which is what digital media is. I will find other ways to support artists and creators like going to concerts, donating or buying merchandise etc... You can't steal data because nobody owns it to begin with in my view.

Anything confidential should be kept encrypted or offline of course.

[–] echodot 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I get what you're saying but copyright is necessary otherwise nobody would create anything. If you can't get compensated for your work then why put the effort in?

Hollywood wouldn't exist without copyright and you might say oh well Hollywood doesn't produce much good, but it does produce the vast majority of media you probably consume. I'm not saying you're completely wrong but I don't think you can just go Copyright = Bad, and leave it at that.

I know that's treason talk

[–] Leg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In a capitalist worldview, which is indeed the system we live in, your point makes sense. However, creative endeavors existed well before the ability to profit off of them. If I didn't want for money in my daily life, I'd still be intensely motivated to create, as it's one of the few things you can genuinely love doing regardless of if it's making you money. Being creative is magnitudes more "basic human instinct" than making money will ever be, and I don't buy for a second that "nobody would create anything" without the profit incentive. I do think that we would have a very different system for sharing our creativity without copyright, and it'd arguably be a better one than what we have now.

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[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It just makes sense.

All I see is people putting on clown makeup when they try to defend paying for a profitable product they could otherwise get for free.

Mark Twain was right. It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they'd been fooled. This generation is full of proud idiots. It gives them a sense of belonging.

At least they're easy to take advantage of.

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[–] justJanne@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I pay for netflix, prime, disney+, paramount+, youtube premium, nebula, and a few more services. I buy music and movies, if available, on bluray and rip them to my own jellyfin server.

And yet, about 20% of what I watch, I've got to pirate because there's no reasonable way to actually watch it. Legal ways often only have the German dub, or are lower quality.

(When I was younger, my family was relatively poor, so back then I obviously pirated everything, but once I could afford it I wiped my entire collection and bought the exact same content properly again, for moral reasons obviously but also because I prefer to do rips myself so they've got proper quality).

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