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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"population transfer" Is a very strong euphemism for genocide and mass displacement.

[–] Mrkawfee 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The US media will ignore this blatant call for ethnic cleansing and paint Israel as the good guys in this. The mask has come off the West's colonialist support for this racist apartheid state.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

It's been off

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every country commissions these stratagram documents for different scenarios. It's not surprising that Israeli government does the same. These documents are usually held quite secret, because they're inflammatory, they go through many different scenarios, many of which are politically unpalatable.

What's really interesting, is that this document was released now. Almost like it's socializing the concept, testing the waters before the plan is committed with its allies.

And of that document option c appears to be being implemented right now in front of us.

Is the document genuine? Probably, I've seen sources from Canada Israel and other parties saying the document has been acknowledged by their sources.

Is the document itself a cause for concern? No.

Are the actions we're seeing in real time, and the timing of the release of the document concerning? Very much so.

Everything hinges on Egypt's cooperation. And I don't know how Israel is going to compel that.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe we're watching a constructed drama unfold in real time?

Bombings for a couple weeks, escalate the humanitarian situation, have Egypt come in saying oh we'll take care of the refugees. But make them look reluctant about it. Even though they're getting some compensation on the other side. Then open the border while continuing the bombing. To get as many civilians to run out of the territory as quickly as possible.

Could be

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Egypt is reluctant because Palestinians refugees have caused trouble before in their country, the economy isn’t doing well and they have high unemployment at the momentβ€”that’s three good reasons to be reluctant that make sense.

[–] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ya. The CIA has had everything from assassinations to drugs in the water for large populations. They even did those things as well. Things can get dark when you focus on protection of your said country and assume the worse of your enemy imagined and real.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the documents can be kind of interesting and fun: I'm sure Denmark has a plan to repel a Canadian invasion of Greenland.

And I'm sure Canada has a plan on invading Greenland, if it should become necessary... Critical ice purposes

[–] ashar@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (16 children)

This is a continuation of the ethnic cleansing that Israel has carried out for the past 70 years. No big surprise.

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The same way the Turks tried with the Armenians in ww1?

[–] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. The same way the nazis did it, the same way Russia did it in Ukraine, the same way many other authoritarians and fascists did it. I'm failing to see the point of mentioning it though. Forced displacement is a violant of international law no matter who does it.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I just wanted to be sure we have similar views on it

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Dont forget Indonesia

[–] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

were they mostly successful?

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Depends on your PoV. Up to 1.5 million Armenians out of up to 2.1 million died.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is in Asia and not in Europe.

Egypt is not going to allow this. The simple fact of the matter is that Hamaz is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which are openly hostile to the current Egyptian government. So the killing is going to continue.

[–] febra@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, Israel is in Asia, what's with that?

[–] Paul@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you posted this in the europe community

[–] febra@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There have been countless Israel posts on here. Also the extra activity on here can't hurt. Why does the presence of this post bother you? Just scroll over it

[–] febra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The existence of the document does not necessarily indicate that its recommendations are being considered by Israel’s defense establishment. Despite its name, the Intelligence Ministry is not directly responsible for any intelligence body, but rather independently prepares studies and policy papers that are distributed to the Israeli government and security agencies for review, but are not binding.

So what