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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely a classic. Follows closely what's in the academic literature

(note that this graph changes x-scale for the past 1000 years)

[–] Avanera@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Sharing this graph casually is rather unhelpful despite your note, since most casual observers aren't going to observe the scale change in the X axis, and instead will see only that today is similar to the 12,000 years ago segment.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think I remember seeing this 5-6 years ago and think we're past the "best case" senario.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun tidbit: I read somewhere that a few years ago people needed to sit down and come up with a new worst case scenario for global warming because we hit the previously predicted worst case (and I think exceeded it too.)

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Best case is out for sure. Worst case is also looking unlikely thankfully. Probably we’re in for a rough ride but not end of civilization level event. Though that’s still possible which is concerning. Normally you’d think good governance would keep the probability of world-ending catastrophes extremely low. So while those things may be unlikely, they’re still way too possible for us to get comfortable.

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Reminder that this was made in 2016 and we are already around +1°C global average. We are welll past best case scenario already

[–] echodot 4 points 1 year ago

When the ocean start boiling, then we'll deal with it. We will do so by having a conference in Geneva that state leaders fly private jets to, that'll help.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] londos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If we face this problem head on, if we listen to our best scientists, and act decisively and passionately...I still don't see any way we can survive.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Some days ago a close one whom I usually agree with politically said "climate has always had variations" and "they can’t guess the weather correctly for next week, so how can they predict it for in 50 years". I’ll send them this cartoon tonight I think.

[–] lemmy_see_your@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

"Last North American Pokemon goes instinct" - had a good chuckle at that.

Seriously though, humanity should get it's head screwed on straight. This is going way too fast for evolution to cope with.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 9 points 1 year ago

Let's make our language heavily inflected, so future students have to memorize a zillion of verb endings!

Killed me 😂 The message is really alarming but that little humorous detail made my day.

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the Spinal Tap reference!

[–] Doodah@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I came here to post the same.