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I’m in a couple good PTs and noticed I can get better content there then on public trackers usually, been PT only for almost half a year.

So to primarily PT users, what are your favorite PTs and why?

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[–] overkill@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have only been use public (for about 20 years), but I have been curious about private trackers for a while. I have a good grasp of the concept, seeding requirements, etc. What would be one or two recommended private trackers to start with? (for TV, movie, music)

[–] tooting_lemmy@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's the hard part, getting in. You basically have to beg and jump through hoops to get an invite. I'd rather just pay for Usenet, lol.

[–] kuraitengai@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You got a link to a good guide for understanding the ins and outs of Usenet? I torrented a lot in the mid to late 2000s but then stopped. Working on building up my collection again. Was looking into Usenet. Found a couple free indexers and got NZBGet. But nothing would download. Figured out the other day I needed a provider in addition to the indexer.

So like basics… you pay for a provider. Then you get/paid for indexers and link those to the provider, then you can download stuff with NZBGet?

Normally I would have searched for guides like that in Reddit, but yeah….

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[–] cooper@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I joined PHD recently since it's one I could get into without an invite. There is a lot of content, but almost no one is downloading. As a result, I can't build up my ratio so I can download anything. Imo, these places go against the spirit of torrenting and it seems like they can't even function properly when people only download brand new content.

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[–] Frolie@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Red (music) and MAM (audiobooks) have open interviews and have good invite forums that can get you into other trackers. Both are best in class for their categories. Starting with RED truly is a trial by fire with the hardest ratio economy around but it is definitely the most rewarding. MAM is super friendly and easygoing but it can take a few jumps and some time to make it to the bigger trackers. Getting in a good general tracker like FileList, Torrentleech, or IPT really opens up the amount of content available to you starting out if you can find an invite, just know you generally can't make it to other trackers from them. That being said general trackers own their own can be enough to satisfy many peoples needs. Good luck with your journey, I'd be happy to help if you have any more questions.

[–] WorseDoughnut@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago

After joining TL, I really only use it and Nyaa for torrents, and Soulseek for music.

The "why"is just that there's rarely anything I can't find on TL.

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May also want to check out the Tracker communities for tracker specific discussion

!trackers@lemmy.dbzer0.com

!trackers@kbin.social

!trackers@lemmy.world

[–] Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Death everywhere

[–] inverimus@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I only torrent TV shows which are quite well covered by public trackers so I don't have to bother with private trackers. I also feel like private trackers go against the spirit of bittorrent. I also use a seedbox and sftp for privacy from my ISP and so I can seed all the time without using my own bandwidth.

[–] droolio 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Interested in this topic, as having difficulty locating certain scene releases lately. Outside of public torrents (through the arrs), my usual fallback of xdcc and usenet trials for older stuff is failing me atm.

Now I'm wondering is it worth the extra effort and upkeep once again? Had TL back in '09 but let it get inactive, and darn missed the recent open signups fml.

[–] dodgypast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Don't worry it opens up pretty frequently.

[–] BitterSweet@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I would suggest it, you can find scene stuff on trackers like TorrentSeeds which is pretty easy to join. TL is also a good general tracker, I also use it for some content.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Anime: Nyaa TV/movie: Depending on my preferred quality public or private. If a usually private torrent is on public I will download it there first and then cross-seed

[–] screwtape@crystals.rest 5 points 1 year ago

I use nyaa occasionally, but otherwise 100% pt

I'd say I'm about 85% private, 15% public. I'm not in any of the top-tier trackers so there are times when I'm looking for something obscure and won't find it on my few PTs, so off to the publics I go. Last night I found a DVDRip of an 80s show on TPB that I liked better (slightly better color quality) than the single WEBDL on TL. That doesn't happen often, but it happens.

My favorite tracker is CRT. Cozy, and I love older media.

[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried out TorrentLeech a few years back, but at the time their faq said to use uTorrent and specifically mentioned banning users of QBittorrent, so I fucked off real quick and haven't really tried again since.

[–] privatepirate@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They allow QBittorrent. https://wiki.torrentleech.org/doku.php/about_clients?s[]=clients

The following clients are banned from Torrentleech

Thunderbolt (a.k.a Xunlei) FOLX download manager Freebox BitTorrent BiglyBT Some versions of μTorrent (mainly older than the 2.2.0 version for Windows) Bitcomet

We also do not permit beta clients, or clients which have been forked from major clients and/or altered in some way.

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[–] SlovenianSocket@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use BTN and RED as backups for Usenet, otherwise I don’t use torrents

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[–] Pasketti@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

At this point I'm almost exclusively Private only, apart from some anime releases that can be harder to find.

[–] cma3246@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For movies, the best is PTP. It takes time and effort to join. Some more accessible alternatives would be BHD, BLU, and FL.

For TV, the best is BTN. They are currently closed outside of personal invites, so virtually impossible to join at the moment. Some more accessible alternatives would be MTV, BLU, and FL.

For music, the best is RED. They have a hard economy, so if you want any easier economy and overall experience the best alternative is OPS. Soulseek is also a must if you are looking for music.

For games, the best is GGn. Nothing really comes close in the private tracker ecosystem. There is PxC, but they are light-years behind in terms of breadth and depth of content. More accessible alternatives would be in the public tracker space like 1337x and Rutracker.

For audiobooks, the best is MAM, which is also the easiest private tracker to join for someone who is not on any private trackers yet. Start here, even if you're not looking for audiobooks. Seriously, this is the best private tracker to learn the ropes on.

For ebooks, the best is BIb. I may be wrong, but I don't think they are recruiting at the moment. A far more accessible alternative would be MAM.

For literally every single person who has asked, is currently asking, or will ask in the future some iteration of "how do I join these trackers/where do I start/can you invite me to tracker x," the answer stays the same: join MAM or RED via irc interview, increase your user class with time and a little effort, and then you will unlock a subsection of forums where other trackers offer recruitment threads. Read the recruitment requirements, make sure you meet them, message the recruiter asking for an invite, wait patiently, and you'll receive an invite link to join said tracker. Congratulations, you are now a member of your second private tracker! Repeat this process on tracker #2 until you have accounts everywhere your little heart desires. You are now "climbing the ladder."

What's at the top of the ladder? The cream of the crop trackers, those best in class communities that everyone wants but very few put in the work to actually join: the "cabal" sites. They are called cabal because the staff from cabal trackers will reach out to each other if you get caught breaking the rules, and you're likely to be banned across the board on all cabal trackers you are a member of if your rule violation is bad enough. There is very little slack given at this level, so you best know what you're doing.

And once you've climbed to the top, diversify. There are best in class usent indexers like the ones that prefer to not be discussed publicly, there are ddl sites like SIG, wdma sites that live on like unicorns as the piracy landscape shifts with gains and losses, forums specifically for piracy and tracker discussion, and of course...magic sites (good luck, better pack a lunch).

It's a fun ride, being a part of all this. But it isn't for everyone. Just find whatever works best for you and enjoy it for as long as you can.

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[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mostly use Usenet, but a few private trackers with niche interests like cathode-ray.tube too. I try my best to avoid public trackers though.

[–] SixTrickyBiscuits@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Private + Usenet takes care of my movie, TV, and audiobook needs. Then cs.rin.ru for games. Snahp (private DDL) for software.

[–] LossLeader@lemmy.studio 3 points 1 year ago

I haven't used a public tracker since 2005.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m only on a few—OR, AR, AT, IPT, and my beloved MySpleen. I was signed up on CRT but I was having space issues and was deactivated for inactivity. I should ask nicely if I might be reinstated, as I now have everything up and running for downloading and seeding.

Quick edit: RIP what.cd. I was there for… I don’t even know how long. Enough long to be nearly a decade, if not longer.

[–] ForeRight@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have most of my bases covered with mid-tier private trackers. For books/audiobooks I use MAM, movies BLU, Shows MTV, and RED for music. I still subscribe to Spotify though so only go to RED for the rare artist (my music taste isn't super esoteric) that doesn't have their music on Spotify

[–] 21racecar12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Managed to get an invite to a decent private tracker with a great selection. Ever since the downfall of RARBG I’ve basically been 90% private for most of my stuff. I relied very heavily on it. Like someone else said, public occasionally has things the private ones don’t. Private trackers may integrate public items into their communities.

[–] BitterSweet@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

It’s pretty common actually for private to integrate public content, anime especially since most encoders post to Nyaa.

For missing content I see a lot of people make requests and that usually gets filled pretty quickly. Nevertheless there will always be that one-off release that doesn’t exist private, and vice versa where it doesn’t exist publicly.

[–] GreenBubbleB0y@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't use torrents that often. Just on occasions. I can't find hardly any private torrents that will let me in. So I typically use real Debrid or a VPN with public torrents

[–] gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I use private tracker mostly for content from my own country, otherwise it's public trackers all the way.

I don't need too obscure things that I am in need of private trackers.

[–] m0nky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I only use private trackers other than tigole releases that aren't available as BHD release.

[–] max2078@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I stopped using public trackers back in 2006, went to private trackers only back then. I still can't understand why are still so many ppl using public trackers.

I really enjoy the specialized PTs. You are looking for an ebook? MAM's the way. Music? RED or OPS it is. Easy but great.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does one find private trackers?

[–] gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a dedicated telegram channel that informs when a Private trackers become open to registration. You can check that channel.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I don't know where to find that channel, so I think people don't use private trackers; they don't know how to find them.

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[–] Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I use two private trackers, all other torrents I funnel through real debrid so I get ddl speeds, also have usenet setup

[–] Doh123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

IPTorrents is very good. RARBG was brilliant - even though it was a hybrid. Torrentgalaxy seems to have all the good uploaders at the moment. I am pulling down some very high quality stuff - however, it seems to have gone down tonight. I use qBittorent - any site that bans it is run by fuck wits.

[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been on iptorrents for over a decade. I know they've had plenty of controversy but it's just worked for me. More recently I have been majority Usenet to find nzbs instead of torrents.

[–] cma3246@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

For movies, the best is PTP. It takes time and effort to join. Some more accessible alternatives would be BHD, BLU, and FL.

For TV, the best is BTN. They are currently closed outside of personal invites, so virtually impossible to join at the moment. Some more accessible alternatives would be MTV, BLU, and FL.

For music, the best is RED. They have a hard economy, so if you want any easier economy and overall experience the best alternative is OPS. Soulseek is also a must if you are looking for music.

For games, the best is GGn. Nothing really comes close in the private tracker ecosystem. There is PxC, but they are light-years behind in terms of breadth and depth of content. More accessible alternatives would be in the public tracker space like 1337x and Rutracker.

For audiobooks, the best is MAM, which is also the easiest private tracker to join for someone who is not on any private trackers yet. Start here, even if you're not looking for audiobooks. Seriously, this is the best private tracker to learn the ropes on.

For ebooks, the best is BIb. I may be wrong, but I don't think they are recruiting at the moment. A far more accessible alternative would be MAM.

For literally every single person who has asked, is currently asking, or will ask in the future some iteration of "how do I join these trackers/where do I start/can you invite me to tracker x," the answer stays the same: join MAM or RED via irc interview, increase your user class with time and a little effort, and then you will unlock a subsection of forums where other trackers offer recruitment threads. Read the recruitment requirements, make sure you meet them, message the recruiter asking for an invite, wait patiently, and you'll receive an invite link to join said tracker. Congratulations, you are now a member of your second private tracker! Repeat this process on tracker #2 until you have accounts everywhere your little heart desires. You are now "climbing the ladder."

What's at the top of the ladder? The cream of the crop trackers, those best in class communities that everyone wants but very few put in the work to actually join: the "cabal" sites. They are called cabal because the staff from cabal trackers will reach out to each other if you get caught breaking the rules, and you're likely to be banned across the board on all cabal trackers you are a member of if your rule violation is bad enough. There is very little slack given at this level, so you best know what you're doing.

And once you've climbed to the top, diversify. There are best in class usent indexers like the ones that prefer to not be discussed publicly, there are ddl sites like SIG, wdma sites that live on like unicorns as the piracy landscape shifts with gains and losses, forums specifically for piracy and tracker discussion, and of course...magic sites (good luck, better pack a lunch).

It's a fun ride, being a part of all this. But it isn't for everyone. Just find whatever works best for you and enjoy it for as long as you can.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I use both, the private tracker is used mainly for latin Spanish media I gave it the highest priority with Radarr and Sonarr, but sometimes they'd pick something from public trackers too.

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