You would have to be blind not to see how this war benefits America and the west. I mean if we don't care about the ethical/morality around it (I think these are important) but from a simple strategic point of view denying Russia, a geopolitical rival, access to more resources and making for a strong ally right on the border of said geo political rival. Finally getting field testing for weapons that were literally designed against Russia, showing the US's stance on defending other nations, which means we hopefully won't have to get into a far larger war down the road. What do you think is going to happen if Ukraine falls to Russia, this shit continues and possibly on multiple fronts in the future. So its better to squash this now or it will continue. We seen what appeasement does in 2014 and in the past.

[+] buzz@lemmy.world -10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the easy way was Russia not invading and genociding Ukraine. And the same people telling you not to care about Ukraine are the same ones preventing you from getting universal healthcare.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

passing tax cuts for the 1% costing trillions: I sleep

Aid to Ukraine costing billions: real shit

[–] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry but you are foolish. Your peaceful wonderland bullshit is just going to lead to a another great war. You don't see how our people benefit from denying a geopolitical rival to limited resources. You think if Russia had a larger supply of natural gas, oil, and food production they wouldn't exploit those around them. Yeah the Military Industrial complex does benefit from this but you are acting like Russia is innocent on this shit. They are actively in this war and started it. You can bitch and whine about how the west has interfered in Ukraine but that doesn't give a sovereign nation a right to invade another country.

Like holy shit your fucking bullshit logic would have meant the US had a right to invade Mexico in 1917 with the Zimmermann Telegram. We already see the signs of China testing the waters with Taiwan. You don't see how this war in Ukraine can possibly dissuade a more impactful war when all our electronics are basically made in Taiwan. Appeasement isn't going to help here and letting Russia take Ukraine shouldn't be on your table. They will continue, they have done this so many times now.

We don't have to act like its either we get healthcare for all or support the war with Ukraine. This is some broken ass logic. You are acting like its choice when no it is infact not a fucking choice. We have internal pressures from the for profit medical industries that are pushing against universal healthcare, it has nothing to do with the MIC

[–] HandsomeDevil@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Soon comrade Musk will run for the office.

[–] This_Is_The_Way@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He is not allowed to become president as he is not born in the us.

[–] hackitfast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Thank God

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

arnold will be his running mate.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doubtful, that's cardio

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

even on leg day?!

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

That'd be the only way need stand a chance.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

President Joe Biden has vowed continued US support for Ukraine, after further military funding was excluded from a last-minute congressional budget deal.

Senior Senate leaders from both parties released a joint statement signalling their intention to "ensure the US government continues to provide" support to Ukraine in the coming weeks.

But the move - which came just nine days after President Volodymyr Zelensky flew to Washington to plead for further support - reflects increasing opposition from hard-right Republicans in the House of Representatives to the war in recent months.

Ukraine's foreign ministry says the "flow of US aid won't change" with $3bn of humanitarian and military support set to still arrive, but it concedes "ongoing programmes" might be affected.

The growing scepticism from some Republicans and the recent election victory for a populist, pro-Moscow party in Slovakia are concerning for both Ukraine and the European Union.

In an interview with the BBC in Kyiv, the EU's most senior diplomat, Josep Borrell, said he was "worried" by the latest decision on funding for Ukraine by the US Congress.

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