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[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago

Your first mistake towards sustainability is visiting Nestle in the first place. That company's existence is the opposite of sustainability.

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

According to a Purdue University Study dark mode can save 3 to 9% of your battery if you're on auto brightness. Let's say your average phone uses 15Wh per day (5.475 kWh per year). Let's say 5 billion people use smartphones. That's around 30 TWh for total yearly smartphone consumption.

So if everyone was using dark mode, it could save around 0.8 to 2.5 TWh a year in the best case scenario. But that is if everything on your phone was dark mode. Not sure how much time people spend browsing websites percentually.

That's around 0.1 to 2.7 times the daily electric energy production of all nuclear power plants.

The world electricity production is around 23000 TWh per year, so you could save around 0.0036% to 0.01% of yearly energy consumption by switching everyone to dark mode.

Such impactful, much environment, wow

[–] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now calculate how many nestle wells that steal people's water that makes.

[–] aes@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

that study talks about oled displays btw, shit's not gonna change for regular backlit devices

word of the day is greenwashing, fucking engrave it into your brain -- get the words for the phenomena and all that shit

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck Nestlé, but technically they are right - it saves a little bit of energy and that's not a bad thing.

Yes, it's a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of energy we produce and no doubt there's better ways to save energy but heck, I'm down for doing the little things too.

Besides, it might encourage others to offer dark mode and that's no bad thing.

Again, I reiterate my opening statement: fuck Nestlé.

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[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck Nestlé and all but it is a more sustainable experience for your retinas.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So would not visiting nestle.com in the first place.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is true, good point. Avoiding nestle is a more sustainable experience for life on earth.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On devices with OLED screens, the more pixels on the screen are lit up, the more power the screen consumes. So on the majority of smart phones these days, dark mode will slightly reduce energy consumption. Devices with LCD screens will likely show no difference, and we're talking a fairly negligible amount of power here anyway.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you are saying nestle could contribute more by not using child labour in African cocoa plantations?

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, just turn your screen brightness down

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[–] PreciousPig@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not if Dark=Grey like on the screenshot. Needs to be proper black.

[–] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's absolutely not true. OLED pixel energy usage is proportional to the amount of light they need to emit. Dark gray is essentially the same as black in terms of energy usage.

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Not exactly. Yes dark grey will consume more power than full on "the pixel is turned off" black but it does take less energy to show a dark grey screen than a bright white one.

[–] SideshowBoz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Lmao, says company that literally dries out local aquifers and puts that water in plastic bottles…but dArK ModE 🫠

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Advertising and corporate messaging are not about being right, but only about appearing right to a sufficient number of people.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (11 children)

On OLED screens dark mode does actually save power. My phone switches to dark mode when I turn on battery saving mode.

It probably doesn't matter much in the grand theme of this, but let's keep the criticism factual. God knows you don't need to make up arguments to criticize Nestle.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Yeah its not that you (and Nestle) arent right, its that its such a pissingly small amount of energy even on a global scale to be laughable.

Like "Nestle, you arent wrong. You're just an asshole"

[–] Oliper202020@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesnt really matter when its just a gray theme and not black then on oled the pixels are still on

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They still use less power for gray than for full white... so it's "something".

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[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It doesn't, but Nestlé's CEO probably thinks he can use this as an excuse to enter through the Pearly Gates rather than get tossed into the pit that's reserved for him in Hell.

[–] Flyswat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

Plant-based and organic cookies!

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I don't think anyone spenda enough time on their site to make a real difference, it's all show-boating.

[–] adam@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's up with giant corporations and guilt tripping people into switching to dark mode? I've heard win11 does this as well.

[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

They need to shift blame on consumers and their marketing departments have not much to work with, so probably this is one of their best ideas.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It's pure marketing.

It's a trend, so the marketing goblins follow it.

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[–] IntentionallyAnon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Guess what? Cycling dark mode results in over 300 requests to nestle servers, so it does use power sending all those requests

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