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[–] wqx@lemm.ee 146 points 1 year ago (13 children)

As a Firefox user: Oh no, anyway

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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh no, all those interest based ads I'm never gonna see.

[–] Mindlight@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Ads?

"Hi, I'm calling about your recent interest in furry related content. We at Furry Fetish inc recently mailed you a catalogue of our products... Oh...you haven't recieved it yet? Well, no worries. It was sent to 324 North Street..oh... You live on 325 North Street? No worries, your name is printed in large so whoever received it knows that is was for you and will probably deliver it to you..."

[–] monsoon@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Interest based ads that everyone who has connected to the same wifi as you will now see. And it's not just interest based ads. They will use this to calculate your whole personality and manipulate you and others based on that.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Interest based ads that everyone who has connected to the same wifi as you will now see.

My PiHole would beg to differ.

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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm happy to assist anyone on my wifi with installing an adblocker.

And unless google is using my data to hang a personalised billboard on my way to work, I'm not gonna be seeing any of them.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

For those who can't go this far, there are ad blocking DNS services (although you'll have to trust the provider instead of relying on yourself)

[–] gomp@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Interest based ads that everyone who has connected to the same wifi as you will now see

Oh shit

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 year ago

Good thing I'm using Firefox.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago

We have enhanced your privacy, pray we don’t enhance it more.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Google's new ad system is called Topics. If you want to understand how it works, I would like to point you to Security Now Ep 935 in which Steve Gibson gives a pretty thorough analysis.

Marcus' take in the image is overly simplistic and a bit FUD. The intention is for Topics to replace current ad tracking systems such as tracking pixels and other metrics. In conjunction with implementing Topics, Google is removing third-party cookies from Chrome, which will eliminate most of the current invasive tracking tools.

I'm not really a Google fanboy and I'll probably just stick with Firefox personally, but everything about Topics sounds less privacy invasive than the way things are done now. If Google can force this change on the internet advertising market it will actually be an improvement for user privacy.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's not overly simplistic. It's simply not a privacy feature if the core functionality is sharing your data. Privacy is if they stopped sharing data. Sharing more data is antithetical to privacy.

[–] StudioLE@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The transparency of Topics is at least an improvement. Previously you would be targeted - or rather discriminated - by highly questionable traits.

Hopefully with this move regulators will finally step in to outlaw the previous behaviour. That would be a minimal step in the right direction.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I doubt it. And I see no reason to believe Google is not going to continue that behavior, especially for those using a different browser.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but this is local to your browser and you’ll be able to edit and/or clear it out if you choose.

It’s not perfect, and I’m aware of which community this is, but this is vastly better than 3rd party cookies.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

You say that as if clearing out cookies isn't also a thing one can do. All they're doing is opting you into more directly handing them your data. And I didn't see any mention that cookies will be discontinued by them anyway.

In the end, the big problem here is that it's being routed as a privacy feature when it's anything but. It's just a different kind of privacy violation.

It's simply not about privacy so it shouldn't be labeled as such.

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[–] exohuman@programming.dev 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So with Topics and the removal of 3rd party cookies Google can then have a monopoly on behavior based ad tracking since they also have 64% of the browsing market. This is also bad.

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[–] Knusper@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Other browsers have been blocking third-party cookies for quite a while, so I cannot imagine any ad network which doesn't already have alternative solutions in place and is therefore simply given more identifying data by this system. If Google genuinely wanted to change the ad model, they'd block tracking scripts by default.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 25 points 1 year ago

Google Chrome? Privacy?

[–] owlinsight@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

I mean...yeah? Is anyone surprised or shocked when Paramount Pictures releases a new movie? It's literally Google's whole business idea, they sell your data.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

Title says "enhanced privacy" and text says they're handing out more data to websites...

[–] TrekHuis@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Worst part, my adblocker is removed from Chrome, have to use a system wide adblocker now. Enjoy corporate world!

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 46 points 1 year ago

simple solution: use Firefox

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Ad/trackerblocker are inbuild in Vivaldi, customizable with own filterlists, even blocks Cookie Advices and Anti Adblock warnings in Desktop and Mobile. I can use Extensions from the Chrome Store, but no really need them, most extensions are redundant in Vivaldi.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Gorhill already has an MV3 version of ublock. Why is no one aware of this!?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhm WHAT would be "privacy enhancing" about that?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing, and they don't claim it is, they just use ambiguous wording.

"Enhanced ad privacy features". The ads are enhanced. Privacy is just involved.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

you see, they respect the fact that you are a poor slob and there is no point advertising BMWs, large TVs and individual pillows to you. So they are making you less miserable about all the stuff you cant afford which is somewhat nice to your privacy isnt it?

[–] Siliconic@discuss.online 10 points 1 year ago

As part of a required test protocol, we will stop enhancing the truth in three... Two...~~zrzzt~~

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Because they know that wording it like:

"We use our monopoly advantage to push anti-consumer features nobody wants. Enable extra tracking for no reason? Yes/no"

[–] Sygheil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Enhances their privacy, so you (user) would not know whats being sent out.

[–] wow560@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Ungoogled-chromium. Chrome without google. Plain and simple.

[–] hempster@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Even more options and choices: https://chromium.woolyss.com/

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] p0op@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a twitter image that says,

"For anyone unaware, Google Chrome is currently rolling out an update that tracks your interests based on browsing history, then share them with 3rd party websites. The notification page makes it sound like they added a new privacy feature, but in actuality they automatically enrolled you into their tracking system and you have to go and manually opt out."

There's a screenshot of a pop up from Chrome that says, "Enhanced ad privacy in Chrome" with some marketing spin on how you get more choice on the types of ads you see.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you. I added the link to the post.

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