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[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The only thing i can see on the right bad is that many people dont like beeing cramped in with many other people. + want to have a garden Balcony can be a "garden" but not as good. I have nothing against the right, but keep in mind not everyone is the same.

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Condos and Housing coops go a long way I think to reduce some of the pain points most people have had with apartment living. The issue now is that most people are comparing owning a home where you have a lot of control over your circumstances and price stability, vs having a landlord that is doing the minimum and raising rents every chance they can. If apartments were built for people, and not landlords would they still have cramped hallways and balconies, would they have poor insulation and sound proofing, would they have old noisy AC units, etc, etc. The thing is, even in cases where people do choose to not have an amenity, people still had the choice.

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[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Sounds like a literal nightmare to me. No garden to enjoy. No vegetables. No privacy. No ability to get solar panels.

No room for improvement. Basement second levels. Changing plumbing windows etc. No ability to charge your ev.

Fuck is this some corporate bullshit

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

No garden to enjoy.

Community garden/allotments, parks, nature.

No vegetables

Community supported agriculture (CSA), community gardens/allotments.

No privacy

I guess this sentiment stems from US-American toilet stalls, but apartments have walls and doors. I heard HOAs, neighbours are very good at privacy in suburban housing.

No ability to get solar panels.

'Balkonkraftwerke', roughly balcony power plants, are solar panels that can be installed to a regular outlet given the right electricity meter.

No room for improvement.

Ugly version: No hurry, landlords do that to you.

Slightly better version: House community decides consensually.

Better version: Housing cooperative helps you within limits.

No EV charging.

a) Likely untrue, especially with newer buildings. b) Likely unnecessary, because there's little need due to bicycles, public transport or car sharing and all services within short reach. Electric bicycles, cargo bicycles exist.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

The island on the right probably isn't as hot either.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (11 children)

When I see the image what came to mind was that experiment where they had an overpopulation of rats in a cage and how all of the rats turned on each other and killed each other.

Too much human density is not good. You have to be sure to get the percentage of humans to a acre of land just right, to prevent the rats situation.

Nature is important, but Humanity moreso.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Growing upward as opposed to outward helps in numerous ways. It pollutes less, costs less in services, takes up less land and the list goes on. The issue isn't apartment buildings, the issue is badly built, uninsulated in every way and overpriced apartment buildings.

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