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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 69 points 6 days ago

800,000 lusers*

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 50 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ he has 800,000 users. That's so depressing.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I mean,800k seems low actually... it was up and running for like six or seven years. Maybe the prices were too steep?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

There are 800k names that'll never get a job offer from me.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

TIL this fuckface has an online university

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

It's parked next to Trump University

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 27 points 6 days ago

This is a scammer's goldmine.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

I've got 800,000 bridges to sell

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 6 days ago

I really, really hope they used a backdoor.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 241 points 1 week ago (7 children)

800,000 people fell for that scam? Fuck me, that’s a lot of stupidity..

Remember Trump University? Imagine putting that on your resume.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i think registration and actually sending any money will be two separate steps, but it is still lot of dumb people.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Maybe most of these are bots? And maybe paid by the owner to generate traffic?

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At 50$ a pop it's 40 000 000$ Grifters gonna grift ! Sometimes I hate that I have morals stopping me from exploiting those morons.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 days ago

it's closer to 100k, and it's 50$/month so totals closer to 5M/month

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

It’s worse than you think; it’s $50/month!

Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).

So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.

I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yup, was one of the first bits I thought of too..

I still paraphrase his “your stuff is shit, my shit is stuff” to this day.. 😅

We really need someone to fill the massive shoes he left behind - an individual able to call out all the egregious bullshit.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 113 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Data brokers will now have a new set of identities for Insecure White Male with No Financial Literacy.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don’t forget easily manipulated

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 days ago

and probably broke, considering that these are specifically those who missed payments

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[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 101 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

800.000 people?

Talking bullshit seems to pay very good

yes not everyone was paying, but still:

If accurate, the site at minimum would generate upwards of $5,650,000 every month.

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[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago

”Money making is a skill,” the website states. “We will teach you how to master it.”

step 1: convince people to pay you 50$ for access to your deranged ramblings.

there is no step 2

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

According the "hustler's university 4.0" website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)

Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it's not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I'll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it's not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

It's apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there's apparently a hard sell to "commit" to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won't let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that's a sacred vow, bro, you can't violate that, bro.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't even think it's Andrew Tate specifically and I think that's a big problem.

I'm in my early 30s and grew up being 'the tech generation', adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something's and even teens and they've surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.

Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they 'like it'.

I guess what I'm saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.

[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It's not technology alone, but what was previously a local ordeal is now spread worldwide and with our ever interesting screen time to the point some people live half their life digitally, it's only getting worse.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Yes, we have failed far more than that.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My friend's brother almost fell victim to this cult. If he's anything to go by most members will be vulnerable idiots.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 41 points 1 week ago

Read the article, it's so much better than the headline lets on. Trolled him, email addresses, full forum and chat content, etc.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's interesting, the first time I saw a picture of Tate I only saw cringe, and that has not changed.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Who is this Andrew Tate guy? By his name, I can only assume he is some kind of potato

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

They call his son Tater Tot.

[–] Matty@lemmy.autism.place 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

He's one of those "Alpha Male" influencer who's extremely misogynistic

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