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The petition is open to all EU resident. The goal is to replace all Windows in all public institution in Europe with a sovereign GNU/Linux.

If the petition is successful it would be a huge step forward for GNU/Linux adoption.

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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is an uphill battle in the face of corporate lobbying, learned fixedness, and, let's face it, unintuitive UX that is found in some selection of FLOSS which is often absent in proprietary counterparts: something that people who are not tech savvy (tech-indifferent?) would prefer not to put up with.

However, I think the last problem can be mitigated with the right kind of focus and funding from such initiatives.

There have been many such initiatives[0][1] over the years in different countries where they eventually lose steam and fade away.

Also, is there an operating system backed or sponsored by EU that is actively maintained, analogous to BOSS[2] and Pardus[3]?

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:State-sponsored_Linux_distributions

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Operating_System_Solutions

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system)

E: typo

[–] Blackmist 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've always said governments and public institutions funded by taxpayers should use FLOSS and not be beholden to private companies. Any shortcomings or unfulfilled needs in Linux and FLOSS software would quickly be dealt with once large organizations like these started using it as the default, since they could easily fund whatever features or fixes are needed for significantly less money than they pay for proprietary software (especially now that these days they're forking over annual subscriptions), and thus they'd also have much more control over the making sure the software meets their needs.

It seems like a no-brainer to me. Maybe it wasn't in the earlier days of Linux but not for the last decade or so.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Total proprietary capitalist hellscape

Foss: "lol, we don't need you, we have lin-

ENTER: new global Ai standards that depend on proprietary blobs that only work on nvidia hardware and Windows.

Foss: "w-we don't need Ai."

PLEASE UPDATE YOUR BROWSER TO USE-

Foss: "STOP IT!"

UNSUPPORTED

WE SEE YOUR PHONE

Foss: "you wouldn't..."

UNSUPPORTED

[–] dejpivo@lemmings.world 5 points 1 day ago

I like and support the idea in general, but the petition's scope is just too broad and lacks focus. Migrating to Linux? Sure, but let's not force a single distribution across the EU. New EU mobile OS? Nice idea, but there is no solid alternative unless a lot of time and money is spent on developing it.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

Adopting Linux is the best way to help ensure European sovereignty from maga meddling.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

PSA: You can support this petition even if you're not an EU resident

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that So? How?

I just signed it, but I’m in eu

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

It lets you sign up as a country outside the EU and sign it

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they can keep the MS lobbyists out, it's feasible, just ask Munich.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago

Except they couldn't keep the Micro$oft ~~criminals~~ lobbyists out

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 20 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I mean I'd be fine with BSD too. the point should be to force public institutions to use FOSS

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

FreeBSD is fine for servers I guess, but due that most server administrators know Linux better than any BSD, it's probably not going to be used much. BSD's also seem to be severely underfunded and the future of them seem vague.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 135 points 2 days ago (30 children)

It’s ridiculous that governments don’t use customized Unix/Linux builds.

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[–] bustAsh@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

My main worry with Linux becoming more popular is that it will be attacked with more malware and viruses. I wouldn't mind though if Linux programmers could come up with better protection.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Linux is a lot easier to secure

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Linux is already what a decent chunk of servers run, so I don't really see it increasing malware.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The insecure parts of Linux is mostly on the DE side opposed to the core OS part that servers use. We absolutely will see more vulnerabilities in the future as Linux grows.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

What vulnerabilities are you talking about? Linux is pretty solid especially with wayland and flatpaks.

Throw in some other tools like mandatory access controls and you are set

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most of the Windows malware gets deployed by some user downloading and executing random files they downloaded on the web. Since installing applications on Linux is usually done through some centralized package manager or app store (Flathub), it almost entirely eliminates this attack vector. Running random scripts from the internet by downloading them using curl and piping them into sudo bash is a whole nother issue though. Noob-friendly distros like Ubuntu should IMO have some safeguards in place to block these actions.

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