@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to use Vivaldi, but unfortunately the Ad-Blocker on Android isn't very good - Firefox using ublock-extension or Brave is doing a much better job there.
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@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to support Vivaldi more than I do but I worry about the Chromium base and also Firefox has its own plugin ecosystem.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, largely because I like supporting an alternative (non-Blink) rendering engine - I think a rendering engine monoculture is very dangerous for the internet as a whole.
@jon@vivaldi.net I tried to vote but it was not registering my vote from what I could see
@jon only now noticed your handle and who you are...and "Feel free to share why."
For me having an alternative rendering engine is a key reason to stay loyal to Firefox.
So no vivaldi for me though I trust you if you'd say it's wonderful in many other aspects (like features and privacy).
@jon@vivaldi.net #DuckDuckGo is my favorite browser.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox since early times. Now evaluating Vivaldi on Linux and iPad(I know same browser engine as Safari). Just curious
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, because it has good privacy options, and their development tools are very useful
@jon@vivaldi.net I’m currently trying Zen, which is FF inside and Arc outside, basically.
Re: why, I think Chrome is the new IE6, and we need more engines to keep the web open
@jon@vivaldi.net It is my default browsing. Completely customizable, I adjust it to my way and it has many options and pluses such as blog, note taking, RSS reader, translator and much more.
@jon@vivaldi.net After testing all the browsers my favourite is Vivaldi due to their focus on privacy and no crypto crap. I also like to browse their forums which has been helpful to me at times.
@jon@vivaldi.net I have no favourite browser anymore since Opera 12. I don't want to support the Chromium dominance but Firefox still feels clunky. I have some sympathy for the Zen browser project. And then there's Vivaldi, with a lot of stuff I appreciated when I was still using Opera. But … Chromium, you know 🤷.
@fluchtkapsel
Indeed, we are using Chromium, but there really is not a lot of choice. I hope you will make the switch. If you liked Opera 12, you will love Vivaldi.
@jon@vivaldi.net I already use Vivaldi since a botched Chromium browser update about a year ago. It's just a little bit sad that there's neither a lot of choice nor something like Chromium project but on a Gecko basis.
@fluchtkapsel@nerdculture.de
I wish I could have used Presto, but sadly that is not an option. The Presto code was much better in many ways that both Gecko and Blink. It was all in one. Very little 3rd party code. It compiled in a couple of minutes on a slow computer.
At this time the Chromium codebase is the best available.
Clearly there is a lot more to a browser than just the core and we modify the core as needed as well, so I hope you see we are providing something special here.
@jon@vivaldi.net I run with @Waterfox@mastodon.social and @brave@mastodon.social on my daily machines, but have access to #Opera, #Edge, #Firefox and #Chrome for UI testing.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox Focus on iOS. Refuses everything by default. Has a “delete session” button.
@jon@vivaldi.net
#Firefox got a ton of variants/forks recently.
- #Librewolf
- #MullvadBrowser
- #ZenBrowser
- #Midori
So yeah I take Firefox + Arkenfox user.js or Librewolf if they fixed their CI/CD
TIL Midori migrated to Gecko in 2019
@jon@vivaldi.net @kazuhito@vivaldi.net Waterfox and Qutebrowser!
@jon@vivaldi.net I like Zen browser because it comes with vertical tabs, screenshot feature, and familiar dev tools.
Moreover, unlike Safari, it works well on macOS and Slack notification. When I checked my Slack tab on Safari, I usually found that it didn't load the page yet although I didn't shutdown or restart the computer.
@jon@vivaldi.net 日本語で書きます。翻訳サイトなど使ってください。
Firefoxは唯一日本語IMEの動作を正しく行ってくれます。なので文節などの変換が見やすく、安心できます。拡張が多くても不安定になりにくいです。Quantumは正しい判断だったと思います。
Chromium系(Elctronも)IMEの処理がおざなりで点線出しとけはいいだろうとしかとれない動作画面です。たまに文節区切りを見失いますし変なところになることがあります。
あとは垂直タブがあるかどうかで、その垂直タブもタブ同士の親子関係が表せられないと意味がないです。
ということでFirefox+Tree Style Tabが使いやすく、その次にVivaldiが来ます。
@jon@vivaldi.net
General usage: LibreWolf
Dev: Polypane by @Kilian@mastodon.social
@jon@vivaldi.net I use duckduckgo
@jon@vivaldi.net
I currently use:
Firefox on the desktop
Librewolf on the Linux laptop
Waterfox on my main phone
Vivaldi on my other persona on desktop, laptop and second phone.
Also going to try Floop and Zen.
Ostensibly I want to use Firefox forks but I find Vivaldi pretty cool despite being Chromium, especially on mobile.
TBH, none of them are ideal. I'd love to have one browser with multiple profiles across multiple devices, but I find that doesn't work for me.
@jon@vivaldi.net After dropping Opera, I now mostly use Waterfox. Vivaldi is also on my desktop and laptop. But so is Brave, Firefox and DuckDuckGO. Edge is also on there, but only because MS won't allow me to remove it :(
@jon@vivaldi.net as Linux based devs are just ~3 % of all users, it has no meaning for the overall picture 😂
@jon@vivaldi.net I like the hypocrisy of open source community as everybody uses Firefox and the overall usage is under 3 %
@jon@vivaldi.net I’ve been using Vivaldi lately, but I also like Firefox and Librewolf. However the internet today feels like that of 2000, so many websites only work with todays IE (Chrome), so yeah, the options are either Chromium or Gecko; and the latter doesn’t work for all websites.
It’s a very sad state of affairs.
@Karen5Lund@mastodon.social
Sometimes i take Vimb for lighter browsing, but for the most time i stay attached to Firefox for the whole browsing experience and sync my tablet, laptop & smartphone with it.
@jon@vivaldi.net Chrome and Brave - I don't care about Google as we pay a lot of money for SaaS by Google, there's no alternative to
ads blocked by AdGuard DNS
@jon@vivaldi.net
Just wish Google was not used in vivaldi , so when I don't want their influence I use ddg . if there is a way to keep Google completely out of Vivaldi. I'd like to know how.
Thanks MTT
@jon@vivaldi.net Zen Browser
@jon@vivaldi.net I choose Vivaldi as my favorite because I like many things about it. I use my home computer now for recipes, cash spreadsheets, and a shopping list. I had not previously used social media and this is a nice surprise for me to enjoy it. I used Netscape before Metacrawler and then I used shelves of books until trying Firefox. I used Chrome then Edge before I retired, but used Firefox and DuckDuckGo on home computers until I noticed Vivaldi about two years ago and put it on my home computer and laptop and cellphone. I like its many options and features and forums full of answers to questions I might ever need ask! It gives me a calendar and note and task pads and all sorts of things which optionally can sync and be seen when I use the browser on my cellphone or to choose not to sync. The very best is, when I removed Windows Operating System from my old laptop and replaced it with one of the Linux distributions now this Vivaldi continues to give me my familiar user experience. Thank you, to all and everyone who is and who are responsible for allowing me this user experience which followed me between operating systems, thank you.
#Firefox because of Multi-Account Containers
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, because its the only real alternative to chrome and its clones, firefox its still the most customizable browser, vivaldi its the second, but the biggest con of vivaldi feels that its the slower among chrome clones
@jon@vivaldi.net Arc, with spaces, profiles, boosts, and really considered design decisions, it works really well for what I do.
@jon@vivaldi.net Safari because it’s fast, reliable, has a beautiful design, fits well in the Apple ecosystem and it’s not Chromium!
@jon@vivaldi.net
Vivaldi is my daily driver, looking into Librewolf as my not-Chrome.
What I'd really like is the Vivaldi shell, as & tracker blocking, etc, with the Firefox HTML & js engines. No google or moz bullshit, just a nice clean shell and engines.
Firefox right now, and pretty happy with it, but Vivaldi is increasingly starting to sound like a contender.
@jon@vivaldi.net Brave