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Summary

Project 2025, a manifesto supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation, calls for a ban on pornography, labeling its purveyors as criminals and advocating for strict penalties, including jail time for producers and registered sex offender status for educators distributing it.

The manifesto argues that porn lacks First Amendment protection, framing it as harmful and exploitative.

With a right-leaning Supreme Court, proponents aim to overturn existing protections established in Miller v. California, potentially impacting mainstream media.

Donald Trump has pledged to bring Project 2025 contributors onto his team.

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[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 217 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

First president to make pictures of his current wife illegal

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 90 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

First president to have actual nude photos of his wife available.

If any other president, especially a Democrat, had nudes of their wife it would be a scandal.

But America is so beholden to these idiots that it doesn't even matter to anyone.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

There are lots of things they do that're scandalous. That's not one of them. There's already enough puritanical bullshit fucking up the US. It's about time some of it were left in the past.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember when the right had a meltdown over Michelle Obama’s bare arms.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

isn’t that her second amendment right though?

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[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 153 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

registered sex offender status for educators distributing it

If a book in your classroom or school library has anything beyond a heterosexual peck on the cheek, congratulations, you're now a sex offender. Not a joke.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 78 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh boy, I can't wait for abstinance to be taught as the only form of sexual education in America.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm expecting them to go even further, and just stop doing sex education period.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

When the schools close, I guess everybody has to go to Christian school now! No sex education at all, please!

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well fuck as a published writer who has gsy characters in my books does that mean I will be labeled under this?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely. The handmaids will rip you to pieces in a public execution.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 92 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I hope they actually do it. This is like the abortion issue, if they actually go through with it people will be like "What?? How could this happen??"

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And then 2 years pass, and they have completely who banned porn, and why it’s the mistake of Democrats.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 26 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Considering the countrybas a whole didn't learn from 2016, there is absolutely no way anything would change.

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 87 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Historically speaking people have two things they riot for, safety and comfort. How that comfort manifest varies but pornography is definitely on the same level as whiskey, and the United states has had a rebellion on that.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And somehow we just elected a guy who has no qualms with turning the military and the police on its own citizens despite legal doctrine.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Well luckily the military has a good chance of not listening to him, atleast in my opinion. The police on the other hand are more of a threat, though not an insurmountable one.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

THE GOONER REBELLION, WOOOOO!

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 65 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The porn ban will just be the excuse they use to crack down on VPNs so they can implement a full on Chinese style internet censorship program.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Goof luck for the companies depending on VPNs...but hey, Donnie's going to crash the economy anyway, so why fret.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 53 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Oh man do I ever hope they ban porn in the US. That would be fucking hilarious.

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[–] Joker@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

People who voted for Trump after he won:

The same people after he declare porn illegal.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Hilarious. As if this could ever actually be instituted nationwide. Regulations on sale and access maybe, but moral crusades like this are perpetually doomed to failure, much like the War on Drugs.

Doesn't mean they won't try, won't posture, won't grandstand about it, but to actually succeed in this goal when over 50% of the populace isn't going to be behind it? I guess we'll just have to watch them try.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 88 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's not to try and ban porn

It's a way to snoop on all Internet traffic.

Like cops "smelling weed" anytime they want to hassle someone. If they don't like a person, they'll spy on their Internet usage, obviously find some kind of porn, and then make a public spectacle out of to distract from what they're mad at that person for.

They don't care about the crime, they want an excuse to investigate people they don't like.

Say something mean on twitter, and they'll search your IP till they find something they can call porn.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

They'll say they're gonna ban it and when there's uproar they'll say to "protect the kids" you need a digital ID to access porn. Then they'll expand it to everything, ban VPN's, encryption and there will be no more privacy. Big brother is watching, and if he deems you too woke, for whatever arbitrary reason, you're off to the gulag.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sadly people won't react before it's too late because " it will never happen here ! " and till then we think like that because "conspiration"

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Every fascist takeover starts with "Oh, you're just overreacting."

Everyone, remember these six words:

HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's also the pretext for a pogrom against LGBTQ, whose existence in public will be redefined as "pornographic."

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

It’s also a way to enforce ideological purity in education.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The war on drugs only failed if you truly believe its goal was getting rid of drugs.

To quote John Erlichman, one of its architects:

“The Nixon Campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar Left, and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black. But by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

By the strandards of what it was created to do, the war on drugs was fantastically successful.

The war on porn will be successful in exactly the same way, because Republicans have already spent decades redefining all LGBTQ content as "pornographic". This is will be a tool for disrupting queer and trans communities, for erasing queer and trans resources and tearing down queer and trans rights activists. Stopping porn isn't the point, and it never was.

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[–] bender223@lemmy.today 39 points 3 weeks ago

Do it.

Fuck around and find out.

The sad thing is, the nation will care more about porn than abortion rights. 🤦‍♂️

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 33 points 3 weeks ago

So? The president is a felon. Crime is legal.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Least important effect of a Trump presidency - but I'm sure if he did this it'd be the straw that broke the camel's back for Gen Z Trumpers.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The one thing this election has all but confirmed for me is that over half of the country supports these things unabashedly, and I highly doubt porn will be the hero that magically changes these people. It's already banned in multiple conservative states, and all of them just voted red again.

Honestly, I believe that if the Trump admin brought back prohibition, his bootlickers would be the first in line telling us how it's the best idea ever.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then maybe they should have known that Project 2025 called for that before they decided to vote for Trump.

Violence against women is about to skyrocket when the incels can't get a date because they're too repulsive and can't watch porn to take out their sexual frustrations because of what they voted for.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 23 points 3 weeks ago

Then maybe they should have known that Project 2025 called for that before they decided to vote for Trump.

Those kids would be very angry if they could read

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[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We're back to 1920s. Mafia will bootleg porn from Mexico and Canada.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And of course they will use it as an excuse to implement complete surveillance on all your devices.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

And again, the US totally failed to learn from history. This time, even their own history. Do you actually have history classes in school, or has this been replaced by "American" "football" or "Cheerleading" classes already?

Hint: I'm talking about 1920 to 1933, when organized crime in the US was thriving like mad due to a similar stupid idea. This time, it won't be any better. Keywords: Volstead Act and Cullen-Harrison Act

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[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Italy greets you with its piracy shield.

Can they actuate such measures? Of course they can, look at Italy. Is it realistic? Well, that depends on how stupid they are. Italy has blocked google trying to ban piracy and the "shield" is easily avoided with a vpn, but hey, they are trying.

[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

And also they accidentally blocked Cloudflare before Google

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[–] Hossenfeffer 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

First, they came for the trans people* and I did nothing because I am not trans.
Then they came for the immigrants and I did nothing because I am not an immigrant.
Then they came for women's rights and I did nothing because I am not a woman.
Then they came for the... wait, what? Hold up!


* They came really hard for the trans people. Like strangely hard. Like they had some kind of fixation.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Time to start stockpiling.

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