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We live in times where Mark Robinson and the Nude Africa porn forums are threatening to become one of the most consequential stories in American history, so you’ll excuse me if I roll my eyes at the folks who believe our reality is not absurd enough to accommodate the potential notion of visitors from another realm. If you want to know why I feel this way, I wrote 6,500 words across two articles explaining why both Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and I think there’s something to UFOs (Here is part 1 and part 2).

UFOs are news worth covering simply because so many credible government actors have lent their own credibility to it, and if a fraction of any of this is true, it is world-changing. If it’s all a lie, then why this lie was perpetrated on the entire globe is a question that demands an answer. There’s no route out of this mess that isn’t newsworthy and worth exploring, and there is enough physical evidence of unexplained things in the sky at this point that dismissing it all as mankind’s overactive imagination requires a bigger conspiracy theory than the legend that Lockheed Martin is housing UFOs.

Last summer’s UFO hearing starred David Grusch telling explosive tales of UFO crash retrievals, and while most were quick to dismiss this as the rantings of a lunatic or a huckster, I refuse to go that far. I, like most others, am unqualified to assess Grusch’s credibility and lack the appropriate security clearances. All I can say is that he is not a James Clapper-type who is at the top of an agency and can just lie to Congress all willy nilly and go to fancy D.C. cocktail parties like nothing happened. Grusch is blowing the whistle from the great middle of the Defense Department organizational chart, where the rules still do theoretically apply to normal people.

I don’t know if David Grusch’s testimony was true (The Intelligence Community Inspector General found his complaint “credible and urgent” in July 2022, which should be noted is not an assessment of whether it is true), but I do know that if he did lie, he is in extremely deep shit because he accused some immensely powerful entities of some very serious crimes under oath. That guillotine hovering over his neck is convincing enough to me to at least hear him and any others out who are willing to put themselves on the line to take a leap of faith in our democratic institutions. You can listen to people tell their stories with an open mind without having to make an instantaneous judgement about their veracity, and if they are lying, time will bear that out. If someone wants to go in front of Congress and tell us something they think is important, we owe it to them to listen...

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[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To what end?

Is this going to be another hearing where we listen to anecdotal hear-say and metaphysical "concepts" of evidence?

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The other hearings have flight data and testimony from reliable credible witnesses that back up the flight data of UFOs.

We should see what they're going to add this time.

your vague skepticism is outdated.

[–] HumanPenguin 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not op.

But. Honestly non of that is seen as clear evidence.

Science wise witness testomy is by far the weakest evidence. This is why it has been so hard for ufo claims to be taken seriosly.

All we can really say is somthing is seen. Most still do not move from light artifacts.

Being sceptical is a long way from out of date. And will remain so untill much stronger evidence is presented.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sorry If you're a non-native speaker or if you were speech to texting with your mouth full, but I have no idea what your comment says.

[–] HumanPenguin 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Seriously. re-read sober.

While my visual impairment means I make many typos on modern tech.

Any failure to understand this comment was not from my end but yours.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

"re-read sober."

once was enough.

"...not from my end but yours."

whatever helps you drink at night.