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[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thankfully Western Marxism: How it was Born, How it Died, How it can be Reborn by Losrudo was just translated into English. Have been wanting to read it for years, as it seems like it's Hexbear's position on Marxism 101. Losurdo is an unmatched thinker, never been disappointed with his work. Description:

Western Marxism: How It Was Born, How It Died, How It Can Be Reborn is a paradigm-shifting book that provides a trenchant critique of the Western left intelligentsia. It reveals how its dominant ideological orientation—characterized by defeatism, utopianism, and anti-communism—is rooted in the political economy of imperialism. Internationally acclaimed theorist Domenico Losurdo thus provides a fresh and challenging perspective on purportedly radical thinkers who have been widely promoted in the imperial core, including those affiliated with the Frankfurt School, French Theory, and operaismo, as well as Hannah Arendt, Giorgio Agamben, Michael Hardt, and Slavoj Žižek, among others. His critique also has wide-reaching implications for trend-setting discourses inspired by this coterie of intellectuals, from postcolonial and decolonial theory to subaltern studies and beyond. Far from being a negative undertaking, however, this book is grounded in the positive project of reigniting anti-imperialist Marxism.

[–] Structure7528@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read through Soren Mau's Mute Compulsion earlier this year. That's the best Marxism 101 text I've encountered.

[–] Kestrel@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] amberSuperMario@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The full pdf is on Anna’s Archive for those who can’t buy it, I couldn’t find an epub for free though. I’m probably gonna buy the epub from Monthly Review and share it myself soon though, since it definitely seems like a worthwhile read.

[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please let me know when/if you do!

[–] amberSuperMario@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just finished submitting it to libgen, I think it needs to be accepted first before it's available publicly but for now I think you can download it from ~~here~~? If the download link on this page is no good let me know and I'll try uploading it somewhere else.

Edit: OK nevermind on that link, I just realized that page is password protected bleh well here's a link that should actually be visible to anyone while we wait for the libgen submission. https://gofile.io/d/OdIZlc

[–] miz@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

does he have a book that shows you how to build a gundam

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

lmao right. Like I enjoyed the few books of his that I've read, but that knowledge isn't going to "transform everything" or whatever is meant by that. I can't nudge this fuckin empire dawg the conditions are nowhere near right for that kind of change

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

clearly you haven't read enough, I can feel your low plasm levels through this comment

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Just gotta astral project to attack the godhead of capitalism directly.

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

what are his most famous/important works that haven't yet been translated? i speak italian so translating one could be a fun project

Death to America

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Losurdo really was so good, one of the great Marxists of our time. RIP.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Need to get around to finishing Liberalism, but Losurdo has been a big influence on my worldview the past couple years. Reading his works is like a breath of fresh air. I hope Henry and Salvatore (or others!) can do some more translation work, because more people need to read his stuff.

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Im watching a talk about him rn seems interesting.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fuck your critical theory bullshit. I don't need to indulge myself in the frippery of western academic circlejerks to support trans people in my life. I resent the implication.

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that was kind of Losrudos point

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

very insightful thanks. the guy who just got permabanned for being a transphobic shithead was surely misunderstood and channelling losurdo. no investigation no right to speak!

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I didn’t check what he was saying in other threads but and I haven’t read the book yet but based on what Rockhille was saying on his interview about the book by Losurdo was very much a fuck theory guy.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

look Losurdo was cool and all but vaguely using him (without dropping any quotes or even explaining your position) to back up a user who is now permabanned for transphobia dismissing a great queer theorist like Feinberg as "western academic circle jerk" is like so far beyond square hole round peg I don't know how you ever thought it was a good thing to post.

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who am I backing up exactly I’m confused ?

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

in the comment you replied to saying "that was lodurdos point" I am quoting the OP of this thread who today necro'd a year old bookclub thread about Feinberg to post that transphobic shit. they are now banned from the website. fair enough if you had no idea of context but I had already posted a reply explaining it.

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok. Well how am I meant to know all of OPs posts? And also isn’t he saying he supports trans people in that post? once again I’m confused.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

again, dismissing a seminal queer and trans theorist like Feinberg as "western academic circle jerking" is transphobic. it's one step from "bourgeois decadence". reeks of class reductionism and just general cismale ignorance and unwillingness to learn. they also necro'd a year old thread just to say that.

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t comb through peoples posting history

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i just creep the modlog most days and saw this dudes unhinged removed posts today

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who? I still have no idea who you are talking about: I don’t know how you think I’m backing any one up. As I said I’m confused.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Flp1QeOdjDY

This is the interview I’m referring to.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i don't think you were acting in bad faith but tried to explain myself better in another reply. i understand this isn't productive to anything at this point so if you wanna leave it there it's fine by me.

[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok well the way you replied to me kinda seemed like you did assume I was acting in bad faith that’s why I asked for clarification. You also just quoted some one with no context as far as I can see so maybe make that clearer next time…I also have no idea who Feinberg is so I can’t say if I like his or her work or not…..You’re assuming I know a bunch of stuff about some random guy. As I said I haven’t had the chance to read the book yet but based off the interview which I posted lots of Losurdos criticism was aimed at the Frankfurt school in particular. Next time just add more context please.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

quoting OP who posted this earlier on a year-old post about Feinberg... weird guy. can't believe they haven't qualified for a permaban tbh, not sure what it must take. transphobic misohynist from a different instance seems like a slam dunk to not give a second (third?) chance to for me. https://hexbear.net/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=2019549

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Very weird indeed, I was confused without the context.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I started his Stalin book hoping it would be a biography, but it felt like more of a historiography. It was talking about Trosky's criticism of Stalin and Kruschev's de-Stalinization and I wasn't really into it. Not that it seemed like bad history but it wasn't interesting or compelling from what I read.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s not a biography in any shape or form, that wasn’t Losurdos goal. He specifically criticises how Stalin is portrayed in media and history.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

yeah I mean its in the sub-title. History and Critique of a Black Legend

[–] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was talking about Trosky's criticism of Stalin and Kruschev's de-Stalinization and I wasn't really into it

I'm not sure I understand why you'd be interested in a book about Stalin but not those things. They are essential for understanding why the picture of Stalin among the western left is so skewed today.

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I misunderstood the premise of the book. I thought it would be more biographical than historiographical.