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[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

[He cloned] another AI editor ... covered under the Apache open source license [and] slapped its own made-up closed license ... which Pan admitted was written by ChatGPT.

Who gives a shit, rigth?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Apache explicitly allows this. I don't get why OSI bros are endlessly surprised by this.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They apparently copied without attribution in a manner that was a violation? I'm still looking for precise wording of the PEL.

It's very hard to violate the Apache license, but these are the sort of bozos who could manage it.

EDIT: Here is the PEL. It lacks the attribution requirements of section 4 of the Apache Licence 2.0. So yeah, they managed it.

This is a small technical violation that's easily remedied, but I understand that's what got people pissed off.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm a little bit in the camp of 'it might be legal, but that doesn't mean it is ok'. So I get why people are annoyed. Also copying a whole project and then slamming a different license on it and going 'jobs done' very much fits the promptfondler vibe, so im not mad, more of a 'lol, of course they did' thing. But that is me.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago

It's a little illegal and a lot christ what assholes

Yeah, pretty bad coverage of that by the article.

Apache isn't GPL, and it isn't an oversight that it allows closed source derivative works.

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

The way he admitted it was hilarious too

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The license stuff is whatever, but Imagine seeing this sort of sloppiness in the revision history and thinking "Yeah these guys seem legit let's give them a million dollars!" We are in such a bubble.

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's amazing. Do you think they crtl-f'd the name changes or ChatGPT'd them?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

I endorse this usage, and am now 100% in favour of popularising "founder mode" as a term if we do this

[–] cwood@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That startup founder. Is he okay?

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

He’s alright but his clone is taking this personally.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

pivot to AI here

turns out Continue was less than happy with their own backer YC paying another company to take credit for their work