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If the planet isn't poisoned more and if workers (and the public in general) aren't killed for arbitrary reasons on a whim, ascension is canceled. pronouns

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[–] drowns@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

if we can't preserve this planet we don't deserve to go to a new one. We are the origin story of the sci-fi trope of an alien race that just goes planet to planet stripping resources and leaving.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We do a lot of projection in the genre

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

"HUMANITY FUCK YEAH" slop fiction tends to tell on itself by claiming that the only way to stop the evil aliens is by being evil to aliens.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

my-hero "CAN'T PUT ALL EGGS IN ONE metabolic BASKET!" (he fucking said "metabolic" for real)

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Marx talks about the natural metabolism when he approached ecological issues, so it's not so crazy to use the term. Of course melon-musk most likely uses it because he thinks it sounds cool.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I highly doubt my-hero had that in mind and just had a typo/brainfart and went with it.

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Why would I want to leave Earth? If you think this planet sucks, one without a biosphere is really gonna whoop your ass.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

Why would I want to leave Earth?

I was thinking about this the other day. Earth is huge and well, was, beautiful, perfect planet to live on but people like musk have ruined it.

[–] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

maybe once the libertarian rich guys trash the planet they want a rich person only escape hatch

edit: New Zealand bunker villa is not exotic enough

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

Rich person escape hatch this way down-arrow

herebarbara-pit

[–] jack@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

It will always be harder to colonized a new planet than to fix this one

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed, though I would like to go see what's out there some day if I get the chance (to turn in to an incredibly robust form capable of surviving the long, long trip slow-boating to another sun)

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've had a lifelong fascination with space and a deep and painful yearning to explore the stars, which is why it hurts so fucking much that those dreams have been hijacked by billionaire manchildren that actually lack a child's imagination on top of it all and just want to imitate what's already on their screens in the clumsiest performative way.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Because the treats said that it would be a le epic Science Victory to land on Mars, and a Nolanesque epic moment would happen with Zimmer style BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMS and humans would ascend so-true

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[–] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the trend was something like "for every new environmental regulation you need to repeal 2" under Trump. Did Biden ever change that?

[–] fox@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm fine with consolidating regulations until we have just one, which is that the CEO and board of directors are annually submerged into the pollution produced under their watch. Better make sure that wastewater is clean before you pour it into a river!

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[–] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ADVENTURISTS my-life-is-yours

DO A FUNNY PRANK WITH ELON AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

lol libertaryans really think if we had less regulations than the pitiful ones we have now, they'd get their Galt's Gultch.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They already try Galt's Gulches, over and over again in basically lawless parts of the Earth, and they fail pretty fucking fast over and over again, often from internal backstabbing and fraud.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Okay but hear me out, what if we tried it again, but this time in S P A C E??

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Literal vampire Th!el admitted seasteading was a failure, and then in the same speech said that's why spacesteading is next. galaxy-brain

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[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

hexbear-shining has entered the chat.

In case anyone hasn't seen it or would like to see it again: https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

can we just fucking fire this shithead to Mars already if he wants it so much

I am sure we could crowdfund a $1 donation campaign nationally to do this

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[–] fox@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't understand, what's the point of continuing as a species if we aren't expanding nonstop? Are we just going to let the sun continue to radiate more energy per second than humanity has ever used in total? That's energy we could theoretically use to do something at some point!

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

stonks-up brain applied to, well, everything would make humanity a galactic menace to any intelligent life out there if nothing else was changed except how far the "externalizations" went.

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hate this man. So fucking much. Fucking death cult.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's treating society and the planet like some speedrun of a Civilization game where the player gets lazy, allows everything to deteriorate, and just pounds the "end turn" button while dumping everything into the Le Science Victory win condition.

Except such a thing doesn't fucking exist but he's doing it anyway.

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

NGL, I have to hand it to Pokémon for inadvertently predicting Elon Musk.

Look up Both Lysandre and team flare

found Lysandre Labs and create the Holo-Caster. He seeks to create a beautiful world by destroying every Pokémon and human not part of Team Flare.

"I want to be the kind of person who gives... But in this world, some foolish humans exist who would show their strength by taking what isn't theirs." "They're filth!" - actual Lysandre quote that sounds like something muskrat would tweet

The Chosen One: His understanding of Mega Evolution has led him to conclude that there's only a very few people and Pokémon capable of having genuinely beautiful souls. Team Flare is his idea of how to collect as many "chosen" as he possibly can together before erasing every last not-chosen being from the world.

Evil Malthusian: He's become a misanthrope convinced that he must wipe out the "unproductive fools" that are "consuming our future" to preserve the world's resources, and so wants to use an ancient superweapon to kill every human and Pokémon not within Team Flare.

Omnicidal Maniac: He seeks the utter destruction of all humans and Pokémon not loyal to him. At least Cyrus intended to recreate the world and every person/Pokémon in it, albeit in his own image. This man is set on clearing living space for his group via genocide

Politically Incorrect Villain: There's just no way around it; the man is an incredible elitist. Only beautiful things (beautiful things that will never change, at that) are valuable. He regards most people as selfish filth. Then there's the really (or at least comparatively) subtle bit: You can't join Team Flare, and thus be spared from the cleansing of the world, unless you pay 5 million right up front. Considering the rough equivalence of the game currency to yen, and yen being roughly equivalent to American cents, you have to be willing and able to "donate" about $50,000 to be let in. There is no way anybody born into the lower economic echelons is getting in. Just to punctuate it, being fine with the "wane" part of natural existence is detestable. He's clearly uncomfortable with Diantha's lack of worry over her glamour eventually fading, when it's the duty of the beautiful to stay beautiful for all eternity. Compromise with the not-highest is not acceptable.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Bruv even the worst conditions on earth are more liveable than your mars pipedream. Even when climate change ravages this planet thanks to idiots you pander to it will be still be more liveable. He hates unions increasing liveable wages for his workees so much he did a mask off, does he have any idea how much it costs to keep people up on the ISS? Hell the cost per pound to get there? Yeah ait go ahead. He should take the trip

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you can terraform Mars, you can certainly terraform Terra!

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism will never Terraform Mars. It is, however, on track to Marsform Terra.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

These guys can never articulate how government regulation actually prevents space travel, it's always just a vague gesture towards "inefficiency." It's just a mantra to them. They repeat it hoping that if they say it enough times it'll become true.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a boomer take, or at least a boomer-mindset take: "dang gubmint always in the way and I'd be rich and successful and living it large if gubmint went away" grill-broke

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah for sure, but they can never expand on it or articulate how regulation gets in the way of them being a gazillionaire. They just state it.

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Profit is an inefficiency baked into any private endeavor. It's a fact. A portion of the capital must be siphoned off instead of being reinvested. Otherwise there's no fucking reason to do it that way.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think what he means is he should be allowed to do human experiments at SpaceX and Neuralink.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Probably. He isn't getting enough Mengele jollies from cruelty to non-human primates.

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[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This post isn't in the Drej Tank... but maybe it should have been!

[–] batsforpeace@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drej queen we have new coordinates

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Better to remain trapped on Earth than to contaminate the galaxy with capitalism.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These dorks give science fiction a bad name. Like calm down melon it's going to take a little bit before we can harness all energy falling on earth from the sun k?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

my-hero is a dream peddler and a lot of "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE" treat hogs don't bother to stop and think about what the dream peddler is actually capable of, even if he got everything he wanted.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Space travel has only ever been done by governments. Even the so-called private space corps are all propped but by government contracts. The profit motive is the true bottle neck

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

"If you do t let me kill workers on earth how am I gonna make a space colony that relies on killing thousands of willing volunteers on mars?"

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The practical universe ends at the ozone.

Humanity is not going to live on other planets; not in the 21st century and almost certainly not in the 22nd century either. Hell, making a perminant residence on Mars or Veneous or whatever would be a centuries long undertaking -- the sort of thing well beyond us. At best, at the very damn best, we can lay a foundation that may one day a very long time from now perhaps maybe have a chance of even starting such a thing. And by "lay a foundation" I mean preserve, restore, rehabilitate and care for the biosphere. If you really wanna see people in space, we need more regulation. Far, far more.

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[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Good thing Kardashev was born in a deregulated capitalist country so he could freely develop his theory

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