this post was submitted on 20 Aug 2024
57 points (96.7% liked)

technology

23330 readers
107 users here now

On the road to fully automated luxury gay space communism.

Spreading Linux propaganda since 2020

Rules:

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Motherfuckers will do anything except build high speed rail

all 28 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, China built so much rail (and electric vehicles) that their holidays no longer see spikes in gas prices.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

oh my god, those poor defenseless oil magnates

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Yep, only the coal magnates are making out, and using the filthiest coal.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They installed more solar panels last year than the US has installed in it's entire existence.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-26/china-added-more-solar-panels-in-2023-than-us-did-in-its-entire-history

Suck on this. Stop pretending like China isn't making the west look like deranged fools

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago

Suck on this. Stop pretending like China isn't making the west look like deranged fool

No one is pretending. All we hear about China is "communism bad" and racist propaganda against China so people sincerely don't know that China has a democracy or that their government is doing far more to help their own people than the US government does for us.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They added as much clean energy in the first half of this year as the entirety of the UK produced any energy in the same period. The last three records for the world’s largest solar farm are held by China, and they have started work on the new biggest solar farm. They are the only country achieving their Paris Accords goals, but go off

[–] JamesConnollysStache@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean, cool. But, they were also responsible for something like 90% of new coal plants last year and continuing the trend this year. So, that really sucks. Could it be that added renewable capacity has to be matched with stinky non-renewable capacity due to its unreliable nature?

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Ha! Joke's on these stinky commies, I would never reflect on material reality when China Bad

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago

True, but China is also building nuclear reactors as quickly as they can so China is actually serious about reducing their emissions. The US on the other hand isn't building any nuclear or highspeed rail, our cars keep getting bigger, our cities keep sprawling out, and all we are really doing is gaslighting our own people with green washing nonsense like carbon credits

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

It could also be that they don't have enough renewables built yet to have enough fully renewable backup in place yet. These things take time. Coal is fast and easy to build, so while you build out the slower and more difficult renewables, it makes sense to fill in the gaps in the short term with something cheap and easy.

Anyway it's clear where you stand on reality when you're in here arguing against renewables, apparently?

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is there another type of coal?

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

Must be thinking of the German Braunkohl

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They'd rather have cars talk to each other with shitty ai than have people talk to each other on public transit.

The atomization is real and deliberate.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 months ago

Atomization is part of it, but mostly car dependency allows them to commodify and exploit every aspect of our lives for profit: Car dependency also forces cities to sprawl out which makes land many times more expensive and forces everyone to take on massive debt for single family homes. The destruction of nature gives people crippling depression which generates billions for big pharma. Massive stroads make our cities too dangerous and stressful to run in or bicycle which forces us to pay for gym memberships. The lack of recreation in nature also forces us to spend money on shitty hobbies we don't actually enjoy. And the destruction of our communities makes us far more susceptible to propaganda

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

yes-honey-left trains…please….

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

In a better world, any additional safety mechanisms would be a welcome change, but in this world this is certainly just going to be used to ratchet up surveillance.

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

They already do, they got that little horn and all they can say is “fuck you!” to each other.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago
[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"The Department has reached a key milestone today in laying out a national plan for the transportation industry that has the power to save lives and transform the way we travel,” Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg said in a statement. “The Department recognizes the potential safety benefits of V2X, and this plan will move us closer to nationwide adoption of this technology.”

99% sure this initiative will go the way of the hyperloop and get stalled indefinitely. This Vehicle to Everything concept is already a thing in GPS software like Google Maps where everyone who has google maps is also communicating to everyone else on the road who uses it. Also most people don't own and are unable to buy the latest and greatest vehicles that take advantage of this anyway.

China: ∞ ; US: 0.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

after the neutron bomb drops, autonomous suvs full of skeletons will be cursing at each other in the parking lot traffic jam while llm bots argue with each other on facebook until the power finally goes out

[–] Goatithro@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The FCC already tried this by reserving spectrum for V2X/V2V no one did anything with it.

[–] blame@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

? looks like they approved it like a month ago...

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

this was pretty much inevitable... i once asked the CEO of Cruise whether he foresaw the self-driving cars talking to each other and then to other cars, street lights, etc and he just kinda shrugged. It was too far off in the future considering they didn't, and still don't really, have cars that can drive by themselves.

im a bit surprised that the government is getting ahead of the cutting edge car tech tho

[–] miz@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

I remember hearing this in the late nineties