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[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah because they’re handling the most prevalent threat of SMS-phishing SOOOO well…

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dealing with cloned voices should inevitably lead to rolling up spoofing and sms fishing in the bargain.

I suspect this will happen once enough rich folks lose money for it to be Officially Noticed.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

To me, this seems like it will be yet another bandaid fix. Hoping for your solution but expecting mine ultimately, and unfortunately.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it turns out you can do different effective things out of sequence

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No shit, thanks for the snarky comment but ig this is the kind of attention you wanted so here it is

The argument I was making was that SMS phishing has extremely high rates for hitting the majority of the population. Ai-powered phishing could be pretty dangerous but it’s got a higher barrier of entry for fraudsters.

That means limited real-world prevalence at this moment and an unaddressed commonality which is dangerous to most American people.

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago

No shit, thanks for the snarky comment but ig this is the kind of attention you wanted so here it is

Yeah because they’re handling the most prevalent threat of SMS-phishing SOOOO well…

thanks for the weird aggression and utterly mid take but ig this is the kind of attention you wanted so fuck off

[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the FCC wants to BAN cloned phone voices. I don't see anything in here about a plan for actually stopping them

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

describe the mechanism that the FCC would use to stop cloned phone voices

[–] imadabouzu@awful.systems 10 points 3 months ago

It can't stop the usage, it can raise the cost of doing so, by bringing in legal risk of operations operating in a public way. It can create precedence that can be built upon by other parts.

Politics and law move slower than and behind the things it attempts to regulate by design. Which is good, the atlernative is a surveilance state! But it definitely can arrange itself to punish or raise the risk profile of doing something in a certain patterned way.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago

look just because there’s whole generations that only learned house construction by Sims wall placement and emotional conveyance by floating diamonds doesn’t mean they definitely think regulatory controls work by clicking the sparkly wand button to apply new society settings!

(chonker of a /s ofc)