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Meanwhile, 44 percent backed the American tradition of competing branches of government as a model, if sometimes “frustrating,” system.

Why would people want to live under an authoritarian’s thumb? It’s rooted, experts say, in a psychological need for security—real or perceived—and a desire for conformity, a goal that becomes even more acute as the country undergoes dramatic demographic and social changes. People also like to obey a strong leader who will protect the group—especially if it is the “right” group whose interests will be protected. Recall the Trump supporter who, during the 2019 government shutdown, complained, “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

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[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Here they go through Europe biggest fuck ups 90 years later. I'd say enjoy the ride but they'll pull the whole world in.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

At this point, I would be unsurprised if a third of Americans voted for an industrial meat shredder for President, even after it had been repeatedly and clearly explained they would be marched into it at gunpoint if it won. The lower part of our bell curve is… well… very, very low.

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[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I hate this country more and more every day.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'm 100% in favor of me being a dictator for life but otherwise I'm pretty sure democracy is a good idea.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

If you ask the same people if they would want a leftist military regime or authoritarian governement they would beg for democracy. These people have no scrouples. End of the day they just want to be left alone like everyone else. It's just lashing out because they themselves don't want to change.

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

I read some research somewhere that found that about a third of the people in any given country are authoritarian shitheads (paraphrasing). The problem is that the unique structure of the US system of government gives said shitheads outsized power and representation relative to their numbers.

[–] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How very in-American of them. I thought those conservatives were all about 1776 and independence from a king/dictator. I guess it’s more like they want their king is charge to crush anyone who has slightly different views.

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[–] Blackmist 9 points 4 months ago

Well, good news for them!

Anyway, I blame the 24 hour news cycle.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

And here's where the Democrats run into a massive problem.

The Democrats are running on two fronts: A policy position, and warning people of the authoritarianism that Trump and the GOP will bring if they return to power.

The problem is that the Republican base is basically saying "Yeah. We know. We want it that way. Screw your policies." And they have enough on their side to actually win the election. How the hell do you compete with that?

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago

How the hell do you compete with that?

Education

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a ~~Hero~~ [Dictator]"

Pardot Kynes

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

I hate this so much.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I have a hard time believing the questions or something is not skewed to get such a high result.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You really can't imagine that 32% of Americans are idiots? If anything, I'm relieved the number isn't higher.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

32% of polled Americans who will admit it out loud, mind you. That number is absolutely higher. Pew Research found 43% of American adults trust Fox News and they trounce other cable news channels by a long shot. We ain’t never gonna make it.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Some people's need to be ruled by a King is very real. It's how their brain works.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If only we could give them what they want and let them have their own shitty fascist country somewhere so they'd leave us alone.

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[–] ours@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

So much for "Give me liberty or give me death!".

I guess a Christian fascist theocracy is a good option for some.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a military regime or authoritarian leader

Two completely different things in this climate. Anyone else remember when Gen. Miley literally went behind Trump's back to assure China that the military would block any of his (possible) tantrums?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Silver lining, we outnumber them 2:1.

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[–] bcoffy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Weirdly, the percentage who agree with that statement, by political affiliation, are: Left - 25% Right - 29% Center - 37%?!

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

One step closer to: "We forgot how to make cheese, y'all!"

[–] radivojevic@discuss.online 6 points 4 months ago

I’m sure 32% of those 32% would say that authority should allow abortions.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Thank God we're not a democracy.

- Republicans

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Well then we know that 32% of people in America are not fond of America. I'm fine with the whole Trump bullshit of "kicking them out", but let's make it about these assholes and not the people who are here to have a functioning democracy.

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