Oh, if they PROMISE.
Fuck Adobe. I’ll pirate PS and AI until I die. Greedy fucking pigboys.
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Pirating Adobe software is exactly what they want you to do. Their business model relies on businesses paying for their license because people already know how to use their software, in large part because people pirate it, and also they have deals with schools to teach their software.
What Adobe actually doesn't want you to do is to learn the software of their competition, since that's how they will lose money in the long term.
This. Right here.
The main reason we need to push for open source alternatives is this. The more people learn how to use them the more content around them we get and more people take interest in using it and helping develop it (and donate to it).
I went to Affinity Photo and Illustrator years ago, and I’m a fan. One time purchase, easy to use, and full tutorials from the creators on Vimeo. ~~Only downside is that it’s only available on Apple devices.~~ Turns out it’s available on Windows now too.
And it's a huge downside. Meanwhile open source apps are usually available on every platform, with no purchase required.
I hear you. I used to use GIMP before I paid for PS. I bailed when Adobe went subscription, and figured I’d try Affinity for $10. It’s worth every penny. I’d get behind an open source alternative again if it met my needs.
I can understand it, I almost paid for Davinci Resolve Studio due to it still being the most complete video editor that works on Linux, most of the time closed source apps function better (specially due to the biggest funding), but still, using open source whenever you can basically prevents this from ever happening (specially after Canva bought Affinity, I'd keep an eye out for the eventual enshittification)
Affinity is also on Windows - at least Designer is. I've been using it for a couple of years now.
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Is there an open source PDF editor? I would really love anything other than acrobat.
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That 15 yr old cracked CS5 I have on an old hard drive is looking mighty scrumptious right now.
Those are the easiest apps to replace. I'll just use Gimp and Inkscape until I die. Not even tempted by Adobe's bloat, spyware, etc.
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Every time we trusted a large tech promise on an unverifiable claim, they ended up shafting us. Just sayin'.
"We promise"
Source: Trust me, bro
Guys, seriously. The entire Affinity Suite is $150. Paid for updates through the current version. It's solid.
Dump Adobe.
Being recently acquired by Canva stops me from trusting that deal in the long run.
even better, use the money you'd pay for adobe suite and donate to open source alternatives
I'm going to give Krita a try for some of the photobashing sort of stuff I do
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I'm on their site now and the full suite is on sale - €90, not sure if that's the same for everyone's local schnorples.
Please reconsider.
Since Affinity have been recently acquired by Canva, many of its users doubt that perpetual license will be respected.
Just look at the comments of its announcement.
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Nice! I got it right after the latest version came out but that's been a while. They do sales pretty regularly though. It's definitely not as massive as Adobe wrt features, but they cover the essentials well.
It's 50% off right now.
Looks like it'll run on Linux with Bottles:
Thats outdated. Only version 1 ran on bottles, and quite poorly. V2 is busted
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claims that the company often uses machine learning to review user projects for signs of illegal content
OK, so what happens when Florida starts deciding more content is illegal?
Literally big brother shit.
This is what Tumblr did too after they banned porn. It couldn't tell the difference between the Sahara Desert and boobs.
Exactly my thoughts. Adobe is not the police and they should not be the ones trying to deter crime by any definition. How many horrible things have governments done to "protect the children"?
I'm betting the reason they want access to "moderate" your projects is to train their AI. Literally looking to steal artists work before it's out the door.
That's absolutely what's going on.
A fun way to combat this would be to get every artist to add giant, throbbing dicks to everything they create in Photoshop with the hope that it creates the thirstiest, nastiest AI model out there.
Not just dicks, but dicks mixed with other art so it just completely pollutes the training data and the AI has no idea how to draw anything without it kind of looking like a dick. Dicks with human and animal faces, boats shaped like dicks, dick buildings and landscapes etc.
It would take an immense amount of bad data to actually work, but it would be funny.
Here's a License change which implies we're datafarming all your assets.
Here's my word that we're absolutely not goijf to be doing that. Trust me bro.
Riiiight. And, pray tell Adobe, why in the everloving fuck woul you ever need to "review" private content that's not posted anywhere? Stop acting like you're the goddamned pre-crime agency from Minority Report and keep your dirty paws off stuff people are creating privately.
You are providing tools, and that's it. I can do horrible, illegal shit with my drill, but it doesn't give Black&Decker any right to break into my house to do random checks and see if I'm drilling through kneecaps instead of wooden planks...
Dear Adobe:
I. Don't. Believe. You.
regards,
Me. And probably your entire end-user base.
Because when someone presents you a lengthy document. One that describes all the ways they claim ownership of your work (and work in progress) - in detail - it only matters how much they really mean what's written down? Let me spare you the sarcasm and just say this doesn't communicate the professionalism professionals are demanding. Quite the opposite.
"Promises"
adobes promises are meaningless. you are now their product
Interesting, we get to either hate them for going full big brother, or hate them for going full adobe in the first place. It's nice to have a choice sometimes.
But did they super duper pinky promise, cross their heart, hope to die, poke a needle in their eye??
“Adobe does not train Firefly Gen AI models on customer content. Firefly generative AI models are trained on a dataset of licensed content, such as Adobe Stock, and public domain content where copyright has expired.”
This references a single particular product. lol. If they're training a model by a different name with customer data, it would still be a true statement.
The points about lawyers and NDA's hit the nail on the head. I thought something similar with the Windows Recall debacle. That's a juicy set of data for anyone looking to find journalist sources or scrape a hospital's network. In every case it relies on the end user (business or individual) to know how to disable those features with GPOs/registry options... There's no way 100% of them realize the issue and have the knowledge to fix it.
Well, let's have the adobe track record speak for itself...
Bullshit
I have a sub. I download their app. And the they have the gall to install anti piracy software?
But "big brother" would mean they watch you.
I read everywhere that they claim the rights to your projects, which is far worse than just watching over your shoulder innit?
Where did you read that? I can bet it wasn't the TOS, because that's not in there. The TOS allows Adobe to review anything you create with its products using manual or automated means, and maybe restricted to normal screening for CSAM and such (although it's really ambiguous about what they'll actually do with it).
Big Brother? No. Not yet anyway.
Abusive in other ways? Let Uncle Louis tell you all about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXxMCm941WA
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“We obviously have tight security around any form of access to customers content.”
Not yet, anyway.
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