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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 101 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Found this gold from r/pomonamike

Says the guy whose deputy was running 100 pounds of fentanyl for the cartels.

Same department that just “lost” another 60 pounds of meth to the cartels.

Says the guy that was part of the Oath Keepers and spends more time talking on Fox News than actually doing his job.

Same guy that is watching crime rise in our county at the same time surrounding counties seeing a decline? That Chad Bianco? Color me shocked.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This guy is just John Ham's character from the fifth season of Fargo.

How is he not in jail or under intense investigation by the DEA or FBI?

[–] cor@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the DEA and FBI are also corrupt and under cartel influence….

the reason pictures of cops in mexico busting cartels always wear masks is because they go after the individual officers… stuff like, “either take the bribe or we kill your family, here’s a list of their addresses and pictures of them”
aka “make them an offer they can’t refuse”

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 4 points 5 months ago

Thanks, I knew I needed some context. But, jeepers.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the first guy a corrections officer? Not involved with the Sheriff's Department?

Riverside County Correctional Deputy

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Corrections falls under the sheriff's department.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Did this guy watch Super Troopers and use it as an idea?

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

His job is to catch and arrest criminals. If he openly supports putting one in charge of the country, then where does he draw his line? All criminals are bad, except Trump? Or all criminals are good? Either way, he should consider a career change

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

No, his job is to protect capital.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is no law prohibiting a felon from holding office

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 16 points 5 months ago

Wait till Trump starts yapping about "cracking down on crime"

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Better idea, let's brand all that supported a traitor a traitor as well and bare them from working in any system of government.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

The LASD is flush with real literal deputy gangs. To find out a California sheriff is cool with people committing crimes so long as they're on his team is the least surprising thing I've heard in the last month.

[–] Mist3rS1r@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago
[–] Donnywholovedbowling@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Cool, pick some from your district. Oh, not any of those? Weird, what's the difference?

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

riverside county sheriff

That makes sense

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago