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[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What do you expect from an aging population that still secretly hopes the internet will just go away? Here in Germany, we basically have a Gerontocracy. Until all of the old farts in high places finally move off this planet, the fax machine will be one of the most important technologies in this country.

We outcompete the world in [...] work-life balance.

Not because of good reasons. The younger population is extremely underpaid and a lot of them have shifted their priorities to work less, because of their original dreams becoming too difficult or even outright impossible to follow.

[–] exi@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dealing with the Ausländerbehörde lately was absolutely abysmal. You have two options, paper mail or fax. But faxes arrive in the post office and need to be sorted first so it can take 2-3 days for the fax to arrive at the right person in the same fucking building.

It's horrendous.

[–] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sound like a nightmare. I thought only Japan were still using fax.

[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fax is used a lot by lawyers because you get a paper which says the message has been received. This paper is accepted at court. It provides this much cheaper and faster than the Post office. No electronic mechanism does this. At least nothing widely adopted.

It has been doing it for 20 years.

[–] Tiptopit@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what you get when you stop producing in Europe

[–] tal@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Like, manufacturing? Europe hasn't stopped manufacturing things.

https://www.unido.org/sites/default/files/files/2021-10/World_Manufacturing_Production_2021_Q2-2.pdf

This is about 2021 (which I don't want to use because of COVID-19 effects), but they have manufacturing data from 2015 in Table 1.

Share of global market value added:

Northern America: 19.4%

Europe: 22.1%

China: 27.6%

Latin America: 5.3%

Africa: 1.2%

Dev. and EIE excl. China: 15.9%

[–] tal@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s the same story for quantum computing

Unless I've missed some developments, quantum computing's applications are somewhat-niche. Yeah, it's a new field, but I am not sure that it's something that I'd be incredibly worried about (at least from an economic standpoint; from a military communications standpoint, maybe it matters, as there are some important applications there).

googles

Yeah:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing

Quantum algorithms provide speedup over conventional algorithms only for some tasks, and matching these tasks with practical applications proved challenging. Some promising tasks and applications require resources far beyond those available today.[121][122] In particular, processing large amounts of non-quantum data is a challenge for quantum computers.[85]

I mean, it's cool in that in involves interesting physics and engineering stuff maybe, but I'm not sure that it's that interesting economically.

Like...I think that blockchain stuff is technically interesting too. But...there are only so many realistic applications, and people have tried to use it in a lot of cases where I don't think that it's all that useful.

[–] Yewb@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Some of the highest tech most proprietary equipment to make semiconductors among others things are only produced in Europe...