3,878 fuglytruks is the apparently the entire fleet. That is the really big story here. The fuglytruk is a flop. Nobody wants an 80k rust bucket.
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No reasonable personwants one, but apparently there are thousands of morons with too much money that want an ugly novelty truck.
I think MKBHD's (follow up?) review was probably the best take on it. He specifically did not review it as "a truck" and pretty much described it like an SUV where the trunk region is on the exterior the entire time.
Which I think is a vehicle a lot of people would want. Me and my buddies are sickos who go on multi day camping/climbing trips and would not want to leave all our crap in the open (stuff is either in a tent or locked in the car at night). But for the average person? Throw little timmy's football pads in the back or put a tarp over your fifty suitcases on the way to a hotel. And make sure you have an empty toolchest so people think you work for a living. Groceries are an issue but basically every truck I have ever had the displeasure of parking near just opens their passenger door all the way (almost always dinging the car next to them) and takes twelve minutes to load three bags.
But as an actual truck? it is dogshit. But also... Simone Giertz kind of created Truckla, the dream vehicle of every single millennial who knows what a Lowe's is: the El Camino. Form factor of a sedan/crossover but with a truckbed so we don't have to hold a hand out to keep the pipe from shooting forward and cracking the windshield when we stop. And it would have let them reuse almost the entire existing assembly line and designs.
I'm 40 and drive an 84 El Camino, you're spot on lol
Groceries are an issue but basically every truck I have ever had the displeasure of parking near just opens their passenger door all the way (almost always dinging the car next to them) and takes twelve minutes to load three bags.
This just made me think of a great feature for all these cars with sensors nowadays.
Side door ding avoidance - as the door is opened if it detects its about to hit another vehicle, it will halt the door opening.
Of course now you need all the fancy tech in the door to halt the door but think of all dings saved!
One day maybe. One day.
Having computer logic to decide if you are allowed to open your door is how you get people drowning in their cars or getting heat stroke because they started a firmware update.
That said, this is very much the kind of problem that can be solved... basically the same way cabinets solve it. A few springs to increase the resistance so that you can't slam the door open. But that probably has issues with needing to close a door REALLY fast for Reasons.
Personally? I don't really care. Cars are going to get dings and those trucknuts are too weak to do any real damage. But the audacity I have seen from some drivers who slam their door open while on the phone and take ten minutes to put four bags in the passenger foot area. All while the driver of the car they just damaged is standing there and staring at them.
I guess those are all fair points, but maybe the thing that holds it could be easily overpowered even with the computer 100% trying to stop you.
That might not be enough for a strong wind, but accidental openings maybe?
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The Santa Cruz is basically that. They took the Tucson and turned the trunk into a bed. I love mine, but it would be neat if it were electric.
Agreed entirely. I live my SC and describe it as "for people who could get away with an SUV or hatchback but need a bed". Like I get to have more of a car (albeit big for a car) but the messy stuff doesn't get in the cab.
My bet is on Ford doing a mav EV before Hyundai does a SC EV though. Just glad to see more tiny trucks out there.
Should just get a Chevy Avalanche since they're almost as ugly
3,878 specifically lmfao
That's how many were delivered so far. There are plenty more morons still eagerly waiting for these turds.
Tesla: Recalls are easier and cheaper if you keep sales low
Taps forehead meme
Sadly it’s more of a production problem than a demand problem. I believe there are 100s of thousands of preorders pending. They are just hard to build to any decent standard. Or apparently impossible to build to even a basic working standard.
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It's ok they will send out a firmware update to make the brake the accelerator and the accelerator the brake.
Or move the pedals to the touch screen. So convenient!
Nah, just make it voice controlled.
“Faster. Faster. Slower. Slower. Slower! Stop! STOP! STO-“
I question whether or not Tesla will be around in 3 years. The Cybertruck has been one giant cash sink that has delivered a giant rusty lemon. They cancelled their latest consumer grade car. Their next product is robo-taxis and that's with a history of driver death from their self-driving tech. And the major car brands have caught up or are at Tesla's heels.
Tesla still has advantages like an extensive charger network and the appearance of FSD on the horizon to general consumers. People that follow EV closely know there are better options, but they're a minority.
Not to mention the fact that places like Lemmy give the company and its CEO never-ending free press and coverage.
appearance of FSD on the horizon
It's been on the horizon for the last 7 years or so.
Thus why I specifically said appearance and also mentioned it was for the uninformed.
I don't believe FSD is anywhere close to commercially viable for Tesla.
Reality doesn't matter when you're selling an idea or image. Its really easy to get lost in our nerd bubble and think everyone else reads about this stuff every day.
Yeah, I think fully self-driving cars are pretty much impossible unless all vehicles on the road are fsd, and reporting information to a single central network.
There's just too many interconnected variables that can cause cascading newton like chains of cause and effect. For example something as simple as a little bit of rain vs a moderate amount of rain has drastically different effects on the coefficient of friction of the tires and road.
Yeah, I think fully self-driving cars are pretty much impossible unless all vehicles on the road are fsd, and reporting information to a single central network.
In other words, impossible forever because there are plenty of legitimate road users that will never be self-driving, such as bicycles.
"legitimate road users" "such as bicycles"
Not recognized in America.
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like an extensive charger network
To be fair, that "advantage" shouldn't even exist.
We shouldn't have different chargers for cars just like we don't have different gas stations.
Thankfully lots of upcoming vehicles will be adopting the Tesla charging standard (it's better).
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People that follow EV closely know there are better options, but they're a minority.
I don't think they're a minority of people that have considered buying an EV and don't impulse spend tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle though.
It doesn't matter to them if the person who wasn't going to buy an EV doesn't buy a Tesla. It matters if the person who was going to buy an EV doesn't buy a Tesla.
Its not an impulse spend, its a lengthy history of hearing that Teslas are THE option for EV.
Normies who have seen or heard of Teslas for well over a decade now aren't going to be easily swayed by an upstart company or the latest Nissan Leaf.
Elon's image after Twitter in my opinion has done way more to dissuade potential buyers than anything Tesla itself or other car manufacturers have done.
I've talked to plenty of normies about this, from what I've seen whatever advantage Tesla had is pretty much gone between the stories of EVs burning down buildings, EV range anxiety, etc.
The "normies" just want a good car that's going to get them from point A to B ... and most "normies" shop around a bit before dropping 30, 40, or 50k on a car.
If they're buying Tesla it's because a friend they trust bought one and likes it. Most normies have way too many doubts about EVs and Tesla to really have brand loyalty.
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I'd argue the lease business carries them big time. But 2nd hand leases don't generate money for them .. they might get some spare change from subscriptions but their support has to carry over to older vehicles no longer providing profit.
The recall affects 3,878 Cybertrucks, which cost roughly $61,000 (£48,320), made between November 2023 and April 2024.
This is a bit off topic, but the $61K RWD trim is "available in 2025", so the recalled vehicles are either the $80K AWD trim or $100K Cyberbeast trim.
The entire fleet, 80 to 100 thousand dollar vehicles, being recalled because they cheapef out on the fucking accelerator.
If it was GM or Chrysler, I would also assume the stupid decision to glue a flat piece of metal to another flat piece of metal that people are going to stomp on was because glue is cheap.
This, unfortunately, is a Musk run company, so the real reason was likely hubris. Someone's over engineered solution getting axed for cost is the least likely reason. It's more likely that the man child in charge (or a hand picked manchildlett crony) thought welding / mechanical fasteners were beneath them and that the glue was actually a sufficient and elegant solution to maintain clean design or some other form over function reason.
The greatest trick Tesla ever pulled was convincing the world it was a car company and not a meme stock.
This headline is definitely a perfect encapsulation of the current state of all things Musk-related.
what do you expect when you buy a memewagon. f’ing numpties, all of them, everyone involved from elmo down to the buyer.
Truly worthy of its title of WankPanzer. Although I would apply that to most lifted short-bed pickup trucks to be honest.
Love that there are so many apt nicknames for the techbrodozer.
Who would have expected such a cheaply made hunk of steel to have safety issues?
Aren't those things almost double the weight of a typical truck? That and 100% torque from a dead stop (because electric) is horrifying if it accelerates unintentionally. I always see this one guy cruising around every weekend in a dense shopping mall near me just to show it off. I can't imagine if that thing plows into a busy shopping area.
Roughly three metric tonnes, which is twice a decent-sized hatchback like a current Ford Focus
You should see the NTSB’s crash tests of it!
. . . cause there aren’t any. And what there is from Tesla is a goddamned nightmare.
...or twice a decently-sized pickup truck like a '90s Ford Ranger, for that matter!
Other articles are reporting that they used soap as a “lubricant”.
Like they’re Beoing.
Thr most innovative car manufacturer in the world. They are just pioneering new accelerator behavior. Musk truly is the visionary of the generation.
I fell asleep behind the wheel for maybe four seconds one time (the dreaded double clopen) and have had infrequent nightmares of being trapped in a vehicle that is uncontrollably accelerating ever since
The great thing about living in the future is that your dreams are daily becoming a reality
Let us once again remember how Musk boldly state that he knows more than anyone alive about manufacturing.
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