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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep, a secular one state solution is the only viable long term solution.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've been thinking a nation of states might work. Like Gaza, West Bank, and Israel could all have their own local governments and constitutions, but the federal government would be made up of representatives from each. With the current populations, Israelis would have a supermajority in any all-in-one state vote, but as a nation of states they would have to compromise.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There would have to be minority protections. Treating it like a group of ethnostates would perpetuate their current issues, it must be an equal state.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hmm, that's a good point. I was thinking that a unitary government would be paralyzed by conflict around religious laws. A hijab is part of the school uniform for Palestinian girls, but would likely be opposed by large numbers of present day Israelis (just as an example); I was thinking that having states/provinces that could set their own policies could help alleviate some of those pressure points.

Though admittedly as an American I'm sure I have some level of bias for federated states, it just seems natural to me.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Largely, much of this hyper-religious policy comes from a lack of material development and mass industrialization. Advancing mode of production generally results in a more secular society with more progressive laws.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's true. Though some of the most economically prosperous nations still prefer to live with Islamic laws. The UAE has a higher per capita GDP than the US and still bases their legal system heavily on sharia law. I think sometimes it comes down to cultural differences more than material ones. Oman and Saudi Arabian also score very high on the human development index, but still prefer many 'hyper-religious' policies.

In general I think the trend is towards secular society with improved material conditions, but it can get dicey to try and prescribe a secular state on people who aren't ready for it.

Regardless of the civil structure, if even just a fraction of what is currently spent on the IDF could go towards reparations and reconstruction, it would be amazing to see how quickly material conditions improve.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't say GDP per Capita is the measure, but largely Mode of Production, and even then it's a lagging indicator as movements must be had.

I do agree though, more spending on reparations and reconstruction and less on genocide would be amazing.