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[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Not a communist, but I think I will vote for the person who most represents my values and policies this year.

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's surreal how such a comment is downvoted. In democracy you are supposed to vote with your conscience. If you are bullied to vote for someone under threat of loosing democracy...you already lost it.

If Democrats want to win then they must deserve that vote. What they want is a blank check to do what they please and the voter has to take it or else Trump. Fuck that. It's their responsibility, not the voters! You play this game and they'll know they can do what they want as long as there's a boogeyman. You'll be a democracy just in name. On the long term you'll be just as fucked as with Trump.

It's not the voters who are running against Trump. If Biden wants to win, then he should win by earning the most votes. Period. Democracy isn't easy.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most closely represents your values or has the best chance of representing your values?

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Most closely represents my values.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Does that person have a chance of winning, or are you saying "It's okay if a fascist wins, so long as I can feel good about myself"?

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Folks who think Biden and Trump are the same are folks who are privileged enough to not be effected by the outcome of this election. To them they are the same because roe v Wade didn't affect them. Student loan debt forgiveness didn't affect them. Socialized healthcare didn't affect them.

And if it did, it just goes to show how strong the tankie propaganda machine is. It's all or nothing with these people and history has shown that line of thinking is soaked in blood and betrayal.

[–] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago

It is true that people who are apathetic towards voting because they will be treated the same either way COULD be very privileged. Alternatively, they’re people who are already treated as second class citizens and see no help or hope from biden or trump, so their livelihoods will be consistently bad (like starving to death on the street, suicide from not wanting to burden your family over a medical bill, or watching all your friends and family get bombed to death by your tax dollar bad). It’s mainly people in the middle who are affected by the presidential winner and those in the middle desperately don’t want to be pushed towards being second class citizens- it’s a plea for status quo to be maintained. Thinking that everyone who isn’t focusing on the election are people who own two yachts is a bit foolish. I’d argue that you should probably treat the yacht bro and the hopeless citizen differently.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 months ago

Oh, they probably don't.

[–] capital@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

Same. I write in my own name to be sure my vote perfectly aligns with my morals.

I mean sure, I know the person I vote for won’t win but I feel good inside even if women lose even more control over their bodies, GHG emissions get worse than they otherwise would, and Russia gets to do what it wants, etc.