286
Ukraine was in trouble already — now it openly admits it's on track to lose
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 17 Apr 2024
286 points (94.7% liked)
News
23367 readers
4312 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Almost like the west isnt funding them the way they are supposed to. To anyone in the US, this is why you need a democratic majority in the house. Russia has already called Ukraine a stepping stone multiple times, but US news is a awash with nothing but news on Gaza and israel despite the US policy on israel being unfortunately decided for 70 years now. So instead of pressuring our govt to act on Ukraine, we have protestors wasting their effort on the wrong genocide, one which the US was never going to stop, and is much smaller in scale. Its a dismal way of looking at things, but it is not incorrect.
Protesting against genocide is never a waste of effort. Following your logic, Ukraine is a lost cause because Russia is determined to invade it and US congress is too divided to stop it anyway, so no one should care.
You're not following his logic. He puts priority on the bigger genocide. And posits that there are too many Zionists in USA, so it's much more hopeless to stop Israel support fast, might as well continue with the big fish.
The situation in Palestine is a one-sided slaughter, with a million Palestinians on the verge of starvation. There is no stopping Russia quickly either, unless maybe if you propose direct US military participation, and even then that may not put a swift end to things.
Stopping Russia is about just sending ammunition and supplies to Ukraine, they will fight for themselves, but they might run out of bullets at this rate (literally the current state of affairs).
USA openly and cozily supports Israel with deep rooted Zionism, you cant change this quick it would appear, and is what my two comments and the other guy is saying.
Gaza strip is 0.5mil, Ukraine is 38mil. Russia doing another Holodomor is entirely real and possible.
But haven't you heard? The US has already committed LITERAL BILLIONS to Ukraine, and what did it get us? Nothing! Just imagine if that money would've been spent here! ~~We could have spent it on schools~~ Some poor CEO could've had fat bonuses! ~~Maybe we could've cancelled the medical debt of 100 people~~ We could've spent more on covering up environmental damage without doing anything against the companies that caused that damage.
I tell you, if we wouldn't have spent that money on Ukraine, we could've medicare for all, student loan forgiveness, functioning infrastructure and a sane republican party. But because we spent those billions on Ukraine, sadly, we had to budget a little and got none of the above. If only we still had that money, all of our woes would be over!
sigh
We didnt spend billions on Ukraine. We donate old arms worth billions that were due to be phased out anyway to Ukraine. Crappy media reporting has really done on number on everyone who believes otherwise. And guess what? That weaponry was doing the trick. As predicted, giving Ukraine an absolute fuckload of our outdated shit is held russia back.
But sure. Lets let Poland, Finland, and Lithuania fall next -___-
They were being sarcastic, by the way.
But without the /s, who would ever know? /s
I was sweating over here, not being able to come up with anything more in the realm of fiction than a sane republican party.
I kinda thought so at first, but rereading ur comment i figured id better reply since u can never be to sure. Sorry dude. I guess u make a convincing republican when u try :p
Oops! I am dumb, by the way.
almost like it was a poor investment that didnt pan out.
Yes, we need more crypto-bro mindsets when approaching the defense of allies. Invest big and hodl! Diamondhands!
Well I mean most Westerners have moved on and forgotten about Ukraine. They have a short attention span now it's all Palestine and Ukraine can go fuck itself I guess
To be fair, Israel is killing way more civilians than Russia is.
The US is also backing Israel, which it is not doing for Russia.
The u.s has killed more civilians than both combine. That's why I roll my eyes at Americans suddenly taking the moral high ground, not against their own atrocities, but that of others. It's easy for Americans to be outraged at other nations committing crimes when they ignore their own. My people were killed and used as target practice by Americans, and I don't remember a single soldier being disciplined for it.
That's why I hate how full of bullshit morals Americans are